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Overestimate the Contradiction clause do you.1. Based on rules of contradiction 99% of the EU crap is thrown out the window. (fine with me)
There's a larger variety of secret Imperial positions besides hands.Drunk Monkey wrote:Palpitine likely used them as emperors hands.
The exact quote from JK's manual is "His embrace of the Force's dark side gives him powers that rival Vader's."NecronLord wrote:Yes. As I recall, Jerec's powers were said to be "rumoured to be equal to those of Darth Vader" (I would assume this rumour to be incorrect, though they may approach Vader's) in the JK manual. I seem to also recall something about the Emperor taking steps to curb Jerec's interest in the Sith Arts.
EU Wankery at its worst.Karza wrote:The exact quote from JK's manual is "His embrace of the Force's dark side gives him powers that rival Vader's."NecronLord wrote:Yes. As I recall, Jerec's powers were said to be "rumoured to be equal to those of Darth Vader" (I would assume this rumour to be incorrect, though they may approach Vader's) in the JK manual. I seem to also recall something about the Emperor taking steps to curb Jerec's interest in the Sith Arts.
If all your going to bitch about EU, then leave. If you want to provide a viable arguement or add something useful, then by all means, do so. Otherwise, take your "EU SUXXXXS!!!!!111!!!1!!oneone!!!!" elsewhere.EU Wankery at its worst.
That was also written before Darth Vader was wanked up in the prequels to be "The Chosen One" rather than just another powerful Jedi Knight who happened to go dark.MrAnderson wrote:EU Wankery at its worst.Karza wrote:The exact quote from JK's manual is "His embrace of the Force's dark side gives him powers that rival Vader's."NecronLord wrote:Yes. As I recall, Jerec's powers were said to be "rumoured to be equal to those of Darth Vader" (I would assume this rumour to be incorrect, though they may approach Vader's) in the JK manual. I seem to also recall something about the Emperor taking steps to curb Jerec's interest in the Sith Arts.
Master Jerec was an archeologist of sorts for the Jedi Order, traveling the galaxy to find ancient Jedi and other Force-using sects' artifacts and wellsprings of the Force, while neutralizing or cataloging nexi of the dark side and Sith storehouses or sites. He was out amongst the Unknown Regions and Wild Space when Order 66 went out. When he returned, he found the Empire in control. He tried to flee by High Inquisitor Tremayne pursued him and succeeded in turning him to the dark side. He joined the Inquisitorious and Palpatine gave him a second job very similar to the one he had been given by the Jedi High Council. He sought dark side sites and artifacts. In the process, as an inquisitor he tracked down other Jedi in-hiding or on long-duration and long-distance missions and turned them to the dark side. As an inquisitor he eventually formed a group of six dark Jedi underlings, and as Palpatine's archeologist learned to speak, read, and write Sith. In the process he learned a great deal of Sith lore and knowledge. He even branded his own face with Sith tattoos (desending from the corners of his mouth to the edge of his jaw). Hence why Palpatine sought to limit him.NecronLord wrote:Yes. As I recall, Jerec's powers were said to be "rumoured to be equal to those of Darth Vader" (I would assume this rumour to be incorrect, though they may approach Vader's) in the JK manual. I seem to also recall something about the Emperor taking steps to curb Jerec's interest in the Sith Arts.
Were was this from, a book, a game?Illuminatus Primus wrote:Master Jerec was an archeologist of sorts for the Jedi Order, traveling the galaxy to find ancient Jedi and other Force-using sects' artifacts and wellsprings of the Force, while neutralizing or cataloging nexi of the dark side and Sith storehouses or sites. He was out amongst the Unknown Regions and Wild Space when Order 66 went out. When he returned, he found the Empire in control. He tried to flee by High Inquisitor Tremayne pursued him and succeeded in turning him to the dark side. He joined the Inquisitorious and Palpatine gave him a second job very similar to the one he had been given by the Jedi High Council. He sought dark side sites and artifacts. In the process, as an inquisitor he tracked down other Jedi in-hiding or on long-duration and long-distance missions and turned them to the dark side. As an inquisitor he eventually formed a group of six dark Jedi underlings, and as Palpatine's archeologist learned to speak, read, and write Sith. In the process he learned a great deal of Sith lore and knowledge. He even branded his own face with Sith tattoos (desending from the corners of his mouth to the edge of his jaw). Hence why Palpatine sought to limit him.NecronLord wrote:Yes. As I recall, Jerec's powers were said to be "rumoured to be equal to those of Darth Vader" (I would assume this rumour to be incorrect, though they may approach Vader's) in the JK manual. I seem to also recall something about the Emperor taking steps to curb Jerec's interest in the Sith Arts.
The game Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight.Glimmervoid wrote:Were was this from, a book, a game?
I wouldn't say so. It was after all, only a rumour. Probably one fostered by Jerec himself after the demise of the Emperor (no reason to keep his head down after that, and it helps to motivate the troops if they think they have an ubersith leading them)MrAnderson wrote:EU Wankery at its worst.
It's from the Dark Side sourcebook (Or at least, the version I've seen is). Order 66 is not mentioned by name, but the Jedi Purges are.Cykeisme wrote:Edit: Hey IP, where's that new stuff about Jerec from? I'm guessnig it's a brand-new post-RotS write-up, since it mentions Order 66.
Courtesy of The Dark."The blind Jedi Knight Jerec was one of a handful of Jedi located and turned to the dark side by High Inquisitor Tremayne. Jerec had been part of a small task force of Jedi charged by the Jedi Council with recovering lost artifacts, and was stunned to discover on his return to the Republic that in his absence it had become an Empire - and Jedi were being hunted down like animals. He fled back to the Unknown Regions, but to no avail; Tremayne followed his trail, captured him and his few companions, and turned Jerec to the dark side.
Jerec immediately offered his services to the Emperor, explaining that he knew of a handful of other Jedi students who were on long-range missions and knew nothing of the fall of the Jedi Order. Jerec sought them out and turned them to the dark side, then with their aid gathered a few more Force-users, until finally Jerec had a cadre of six Dark Jedi under his command.
The Emperor charged Jerec with a task similar to the one the Jedi Council had assigned him: located artifacts of the Jedi - and the Sith - and bring them to Imperial Center. Jerec and his Dark Jedi pursued the task with fanatical devotion, but when the Emperor died at the Battle of Endor, Jerec decided to apply his work toward expanding his own power. He researched the existence of the legendary Valley of the Jedi, which he believed to be the repository of vast power, just waiting to be claimed by someone brave enough to unlock it and strong enough to control it.
Jerec learned that a Jedi named Qu Rahn was also seeking the Valley of the Jedi, and that Qu Rahn had learned which planet it was on from a Rebel named Morgan Katarn. Jerec slew Rahn and Katarn and eventurally duscivered the location of the Valley of the Jedi on Ruusan. Pursued by Katarn's vengeful son, Kyle Katarn, Jerec and his Dark Jedi hurried to Ruusan. Jerec's followers held off Katarn long enough for Jerec to access the Valley's secrets and gain phenomenal Force powers. But even with his increased might, Jerec was unable to defeat Kyle or to prevent him from freeing the Valley's trapped Jedi Spirits."
I wrote it up compiling information from the Wizard's of the Coast SW d20 RPG supplement The Dark Side Sourcebook and what we know from ROTS.Cykeisme wrote:Edit: Hey IP, where's that new stuff about Jerec from? I'm guessnig it's a brand-new post-RotS write-up, since it mentions Order 66.
It would be logical he was with other Jedi and attempted to kill palpatine similar to what Mace tried but was converted by palpatine and went on to help in the Purge.FTeik wrote:Question is, why was Jerec playing archeologist when a war was fought?
And why did he go back, if the "return home" signal from the Jedi-temple was switched to "stay away as far as possible"?