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Padme's Body

Posted: 2005-05-27 12:22am
by Straha
In the movie we see Padme collapse on Mustafar, get taken by C-3P0, Obi-Wan, Yoda, and Bail to the Rebel Base where she delivers her babies and dies WHILE Darth is being outfited with his suit. Yet, during the now infamous "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" scene Palps tells Vader that they found her dead at the scene, and we later see her funeral...

So, how is Padme's body in two places, in two different conditions, at the same time, and how does Bail drop her body off for burial (with faked pregnancy... which also begs the question of did the republic not know of Autopsies along with its lack of knowledge with Ultra-Sound imaging?) without some sort of raised eyebrow from Coruscant? (BTW, before people say Palps lied outright, he had to have found something there, otherwise he wouldn't have known she had been there, and that Vader had force choked her...)

Posted: 2005-05-27 12:25am
by Spanky The Dolphin
Palpatine just tells him that she's dead and that Vader killed her. He most likely found out because her death was probably announced to the general Galaxy as part of the news or recieved information due to his position as the Emperor.

Also, about the happening at the same time business, it's called non-chronological editing.

Posted: 2005-05-27 12:26am
by Noble Ire
He never says dead at the scene. Where the hell did that come from? Palpatine's words were: "I'm afraid in your anger you killed her." :roll:

As for the rest, I'm not really sure. Perhaps Bail used what little influence he had left to push through her funeral.

Posted: 2005-05-27 12:27am
by Spanky The Dolphin
Doesn't the VD answer some of this stuff, anyway? Or the novelisation?

Re: Padme's Body

Posted: 2005-05-27 01:15am
by Darth Wong
Straha wrote:In the movie we see Padme collapse on Mustafar, get taken by C-3P0, Obi-Wan, Yoda, and Bail to the Rebel Base where she delivers her babies and dies WHILE Darth is being outfited with his suit. Yet, during the now infamous "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" scene Palps tells Vader that they found her dead at the scene, and we later see her funeral...

So, how is Padme's body in two places, in two different conditions, at the same time, and how does Bail drop her body off for burial (with faked pregnancy... which also begs the question of did the republic not know of Autopsies along with its lack of knowledge with Ultra-Sound imaging?) without some sort of raised eyebrow from Coruscant? (BTW, before people say Palps lied outright, he had to have found something there, otherwise he wouldn't have known she had been there, and that Vader had force choked her...)
You think that a pregnant woman's stomach bulge instantly disappears when she gives birth?

Posted: 2005-05-27 02:05am
by Mr. B
They probably did not want Padmes body autopsied. Families today are given that choice and likely no official coroner from the republic/empire ever got to see her body because if they did the whole secret is out.

Posted: 2005-05-27 02:09am
by Alliance SpecForceTrooper
Another question is how often did Vader come to visit her grave in the following years. One couldn't imagine him dropping off a handful of roses for her tombstone...but then again, stranger things are known to happen. :wink:

Posted: 2005-05-27 02:20am
by Cykeisme
I don't think he ever did. Anakin Skywalker was "dead".

Re: Padme's Body

Posted: 2005-05-27 02:30am
by Spanky The Dolphin
Darth Wong wrote:You think that a pregnant woman's stomach bulge instantly disappears when she gives birth?
Kids these days...

Re: Padme's Body

Posted: 2005-05-27 02:45am
by Darwin
Darth Wong wrote:
Straha wrote:In the movie we see Padme collapse on Mustafar, get taken by C-3P0, Obi-Wan, Yoda, and Bail to the Rebel Base where she delivers her babies and dies WHILE Darth is being outfited with his suit. Yet, during the now infamous "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" scene Palps tells Vader that they found her dead at the scene, and we later see her funeral...

So, how is Padme's body in two places, in two different conditions, at the same time, and how does Bail drop her body off for burial (with faked pregnancy... which also begs the question of did the republic not know of Autopsies along with its lack of knowledge with Ultra-Sound imaging?) without some sort of raised eyebrow from Coruscant? (BTW, before people say Palps lied outright, he had to have found something there, otherwise he wouldn't have known she had been there, and that Vader had force choked her...)
You think that a pregnant woman's stomach bulge instantly disappears when she gives birth?
And burying a 'pregnant' Padme further helps hide the kids. Certainly, strings were pulled by Senator Organa to keep it all going smoothly.

Posted: 2005-05-27 10:45pm
by Molyneux
Maybe they just put a pillow under her dress, too?

Posted: 2005-05-27 10:54pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
No, it was more extensive than just shoving a couch pillow up her skirt. The RotS VD says that Organa and the Naboo made Padme up so that she would still appear to be pregnant when she was burried, to imply that her child died with her.

Posted: 2005-05-27 11:06pm
by Old Plympto
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:No, it was more extensive than just shoving a couch pillow up her skirt. The RotS VD says that Organa and the Naboo made Padme up so that she would still appear to be pregnant when she was burried, to imply that her child died with her.
Does that mean that the alteration is not merely cosmetic, but they actually, uh..., surgically stuffed a sandbag (or something equivalent) in there? :shock:

Posted: 2005-05-27 11:08pm
by Isolder74
Old Plympto wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:No, it was more extensive than just shoving a couch pillow up her skirt. The RotS VD says that Organa and the Naboo made Padme up so that she would still appear to be pregnant when she was burried, to imply that her child died with her.
Does that mean that the alteration is not merely cosmetic, but they actually, uh..., surgically stuffed a sandbag (or something equivalent) in there? :shock:
That's what it sounds like

Posted: 2005-05-27 11:22pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Well not something so crude, but basically yes, if I recall and understand the text from the book well enough.

Actually I think the alteration might have been performed before they reached Naboo, at Polis Masa.

Re: Padme's Body

Posted: 2005-05-28 12:36am
by Trogdor
Straha wrote:with faked pregnancy... which also begs the question of did the republic not know of Autopsies along with its lack of knowledge with Ultra-Sound imaging
It's not impossible that it's forbidden to do any type of autopy on a former queen. I think it's forbidden for an autopsy to be performed on a dead pope.

Posted: 2005-05-29 09:12am
by kheegster
In the VD, it's stated that they do not ask questions about the origin of illegitimate children in Naboo. This might relate to why no one bothered with an autopsy.