StarDestroyer.Net BBS

From The Making of Revenge of the Sith by Rinzler
p. 188

Some people were having a hard time with the reason that Anakin goes bad. Somebody asked whether someone could kill Anakin's best friend, so that he really gets angry. They wanted a real betrayal, such as, 'You tried to kill me and now I'm going to try and kill you.' They didn't understand that Anakin is simply greedy. There is no revenge. The revenge of the Sith is Palpatine. It doesn't have much to do with Darth Vader; he's a pawn in the whole scheme.

While I know there is nothing earth shaking about this quote it is a nice concise reason from Lucas' own mouth.

This quote is in response to complaints that some early previewers were having with Anakin's conversion scene. Supposedly Lucas was tweaking that scene due to these concerns.

Personally I like the whole "he's greedy" rather than the lame "he did it for LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUV" vibe that we got from AOTC and which I thought was going to be the point of all this in ROTS.

Sure, he wanted to keep the ones he loved alive, but he was selfish and greedy the whole time (leading him to attack the woman he supposedly did all this for, because he suspected her of cheating on him and/or turning against him). It wasn't so much that he truly loved them, but that he wanted to possess them by having them around, his way.

He was seduced by the glamor of evil, the lure of advancement and self improvement, through "forbidden knowledge" and the idea that it was okay to step on others to get what he wanted. That he might be a little bit crazy, and that the dark side "takes over" is okay too. I mean how is it any more crazy than the Force "flowing through" somebody who's on the good side? He's just letting the Dark Side guide him to his goals, and in the process he commits atrocities, and somebody like Palpatine is there to make excuses for his conscience until Anakin does it automatically himself.

Sheer lust...for Ultimate Power!!.
Ironically enough Palpatine may have had more justifiable reason's for what he did, (It was a tenent of his religion after all )

the .303 bookworm wrote:Sheer lust...for Ultimate Power!!.
Ironically enough Palpatine may have had more justifiable reason's for what he did, (It was a tenent of his religion after all )

And his religion had been persecuted by the Jedi for millennia.

Just look back over the prequel trilogies - every time someone reveals themselves to be a Sith, what do the Jedi do? They try to kill them. Palpy was just getting some payback.

Lusankya wrote:

the .303 bookworm wrote:Sheer lust...for Ultimate Power!!.
Ironically enough Palpatine may have had more justifiable reason's for what he did, (It was a tenent of his religion after all )

And his religion had been persecuted by the Jedi for millennia.

Just look back over the prequel trilogies - every time someone reveals themselves to be a Sith, what do the Jedi do? They try to kill them. Palpy was just getting some payback.

(overlooking the fact that every time the Sith have gotten power they've engaged in a Jedi pogrom and instituted a despotic Empire)

Also overlooking the fact that the Sith are evil in the first place (and no, saying that to the Sith, the Jedi are evil doesn't count as a counterargument).

Iceberg wrote:

Lusankya wrote:

the .303 bookworm wrote:Sheer lust...for Ultimate Power!!.
Ironically enough Palpatine may have had more justifiable reason's for what he did, (It was a tenent of his religion after all )

And his religion had been persecuted by the Jedi for millennia.

Just look back over the prequel trilogies - every time someone reveals themselves to be a Sith, what do the Jedi do? They try to kill them. Palpy was just getting some payback.

(overlooking the fact that every time the Sith have gotten power they've engaged in a Jedi pogrom and instituted a despotic Empire)

What about Naga Shadow? Or the origional Sith empire(Before going batshit and attacking the Republic)

Naga Sadow still enslaved and dominated, and the Sith Empire itself was back-stabbing and despotic.

Look at the original sith empire for an example, it made the Empire appear positively halyconal.