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I have been wondering. According to some official stats the Acclamator is an outstanding troop ship, but it also has the potential (with slight modifications) to be an incredible asset to any Admiral in space battle.

It is supposedly as fast as a Ywing, and has a pertty good load of point laser cannons. Sounds like an outstanding opportunity to achieve a great anti-fighter platform with little effort. Add a few tractor beams, quad lasers, and missile tubes and you have an outstanding Anti-fighter platform, not to mention Pursuit and Reconnaissence capship.

Why was it left aside so easily?



Also, another question. During the Battle of Hoth. How the heck did the Empire land troops if the planetary shield was impenetrable? No ships could have gotten through to land troops...

Well first off, up until a few years ago the Acclamator didn't "Exist" in StarWars even though now it 'existed' in the past, so... yea..

Second off, and more in universe. It's a troop ship, not made for prolonged engagements, I would imagine that hundreds/thousands of these were mothballed and put into storage during Imperial times... That said, if the ship 'existed' retro actively, I bet it would be a Perfect medium Warship for the Rebels. Heck, when you’re using Corellian Corvettes and converted Cargo ships, an old Acclamator would be a godsend!

John Ramses wrote:I have been wondering. According to some official stats the Acclamator is an outstanding troop ship, but it also has the potential (with slight modifications) to be an incredible asset to any Admiral in space battle.

Try a very minor one. Similar ships in design and size are only star frigates. A star battle cruiser or star dreadnaught would be a great asset. A star frigate is just a captial scale escort.

It is supposedly as fast as a Ywing, and has a pertty good load of point laser cannons. Sounds like an outstanding opportunity to achieve a great anti-fighter platform with little effort. Add a few tractor beams, quad lasers, and missile tubes and you have an outstanding Anti-fighter platform, not to mention Pursuit and Reconnaissence capship.

Yes, if we totally rebuild it to be very different, it will still be a frigate.

Why was it left aside so easily?

]because it is a weak and pathetic ship.

Also, another question. During the Battle of Hoth. How the heck did the Empire land troops if the planetary shield was impenetrable? No ships could have gotten through to land troops...

It was a theatre shield, not a planetary shield.

Aside from what Ender already said, there exist carrier- and combat-versions based on the same or similar hulls.

Why was it left aside so easily?

It wasn´t, there´s several recent sources showing it (or a variant of it) in use by the Empire (most notably the upcoming Empire at War game). RL reason is of course that it wasn´t even invented before AOTC came out.

I was annoyed that the Battle of Coruscant was just wall-to-wall Venators, but was happy that no Acclamators were present, since they're an assault ship and have no place in a space battle.

What annoys me however is Venators being used for troop transport on both Utapau and Kashyyk. It should've been mixed Venator/Acclamator squadrons, not only Venators.

The assaults on Utapau and Kashyyyk were both rapid response teams. Acclemators seem to be used more in large scale invasions. Perhaps more came to Kashyyyk later on, because we start seeing more armor later on. Venerators seem to carry mostly light infantry. And at Utapau, they didn't expect there to be a major Seperatist force there, it was a search and destroy mission. Most of the Acclemators were probably involved in the Outer RIm sieges and assaults on Seperatist strongholds. The Venerators were probably all the Republic had availible at the time.

John Ramses wrote:Why was it left aside so easily?

It wasn't left aside. It's still used by the Empire even in the OT trilogy.



This is from WOTC. You can see TIE Interceptors, which are post-Yavin and Acclamators (or variants of them) in formation in the skies of a Core world.

Why are those two cylindrical ships on either side of the Venator in the middle?

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:Why are those two cylindrical ships on either side of the Venator in the middle?

It is an Acclamator-class, not a Venator-class.

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:Why are those two cylindrical ships on either side of the Venator in the middle?

That's an Acclamator, not a Venator.

Personally, in my mind, when I think of Imperial fleets now I think of dozens of Acclamators, Venators, Imperators and a few Executors in the middle, with the film TIEs buzzing around in the middle. EU ships, even the wedge shaped ones, just can't take root in my imagination.

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:Why are those two cylindrical ships on either side of the Venator in the middle?

Because it looks cool?

*shrug*

Brain fart, allow me to rephrase it all:

What are those two cylindrical ships on either side of the Acclamator in the middle?

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:Brain fart, allow me to rephrase it all:

What are those two cylindrical ships on either side of the Acclamator in the middle?

Actually, they look kind of like Techno Union Battleships. Weird.

Maybe a weird version of Dreadnaughts, or Carracks. They look too small though.

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:Brain fart, allow me to rephrase it all:

What are those two cylindrical ships on either side of the Acclamator in the middle?

Ah, that makes more sense. And now that I look at your previous post, it looks like that's what you intended.

Anyway, I'm guessing they're some sort of transport ship. I'm not sure though since I haven't seen anything like them until I saw the picture.

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:Why are those two cylindrical ships on either side of the Venator in the middle?

Giant Space Zepplins! WOO!!!
<_<
>_>

Um, yea...
So like Vympel said, I don't think any of these were stopped being used. If these ships had 'existed' during the making of the OT they would have been used. You would have Troop Ships, Carrier Ships and Battle Ships,

Personally, in my mind, when I think of Imperial fleets now I think of dozens of Acclamators, Venators, Imperators and a few Executors in the middle, with the film TIEs buzzing around in the middle. EU ships, even the wedge shaped ones, just can't take root in my imagination.

I dont have a problem envisioning Immobilizers or Victories in an Imperial fleet, but it is true that the smaller vessels (Carracks, Nebulons, and the like) are hard to picture.

Carracks and the like only "take root" as patrol and support vessels in my mind. Keeps it easier.

The IRL reason is obvious, I meant the "IC" reason.

Aside from what Ender already said, there exist carrier- and combat-versions based on the same or similar hulls.

Anyone know where I could find info on these modifications and models on the net? (besides the official site and theforce.net)

Sadly, most references are just images from various comics, where the ships in question serve other roles or have slight modifications to their hull.

I've seen a bulbed Acclamator variant on the Warlords website, although it's not an official design (it seems to be based on the Acclamator II variant seen in the CCG).

There´s several similar designs mentioned on the Technical Commentaries, most notably the Rand Ecliptic and the "Star Frigate" from ten years before AOTC.

Perhaps the Acclamator title referred to several line of ships, their most prominent variant being the troop carrier version. And I bet the Empire would use Techno Union ships, they are decent ships and are already built, why not use them?

Trooper TK12746 wrote:The assaults on Utapau and Kashyyyk were both rapid response teams. Acclemators seem to be used more in large scale invasions. Perhaps more came to Kashyyyk later on, because we start seeing more armor later on. Venerators seem to carry mostly light infantry. And at Utapau, they didn't expect there to be a major Seperatist force there, it was a search and destroy mission. Most of the Acclemators were probably involved in the Outer RIm sieges and assaults on Seperatist strongholds. The Venerators were probably all the Republic had availible at the time.

Hey, that's a solid explanation for one of the things that previously annoyed me (lack of Acclamators).

Edit: Now that you've started me chugging, I recall a scene I'd somehow glossed over.. at the end of Republic Commando, several Acclamators are seen descending into Kashyyk's atmosphere. Backs up your explanation well enough.