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Lost Clones
Posted: 2005-06-19 05:16am
by Tychu
i havent read the Episode III novelizatoin yet, maby it says but now if there were Clone Troopers that werent with their commanders did they get the 66 directive? i mean int he comic that has Luke meeting a Clone Trooper, it seems he never heard of it, i guess they have to keep from say ing 66 infront of him or something but is it possible that there were some Clones that were just hanging out and never got it?
Posted: 2005-06-19 06:30am
by Kurgan
The question is, would somebody as calculating as Palpatine leave something like that to chance?
All you'd have to do is beam the order through their radio headsets, after all, right? How many clones are going to be off by themselves completely cut off from any officers? Even if they were, they'd eventually re-group with the others (or get within radio contact) and hear the order... ding dong the Jedi die...
Re: Lost Clones
Posted: 2005-06-19 06:55am
by Darth Fanboy
Tychu wrote:i havent read the Episode III novelizatoin yet, maby it says but now if there were Clone Troopers that werent with their commanders did they get the 66 directive? i mean int he comic that has Luke meeting a Clone Trooper, it seems he never heard of it, i guess they have to keep from say ing 66 infront of him or something but is it possible that there were some Clones that were just hanging out and never got it?
Assume everything that this clone knows he is supposed to go after Jedi, by the time Luke finds him, who is left? There are no targets he would possibly know of. And being isolated, he may never have recieved the order if Palpatine only contacted the higher up clone commanders to initiate the order.
Posted: 2005-06-19 07:01am
by Cykeisme
It seems apparent (from RotS) that Clone Commanders (although Bly, Cody and Gree are the only three examples we have) are a critical part of the chain of command in between the Supreme chancellor and the rank-and-file clonetroopers.
IIRC the clone that Luke met was stranded long before Order 66 went out. He was cut off from the command structure, so there's no way he could have received any orders or general status updates; he didn't even know the war was over (!).
When I saw the thread topic title ("Lost Clones"), I thought you lost some of yours and needed help finding them

Re: Lost Clones
Posted: 2005-06-19 10:15am
by Ender
Tychu wrote:i havent read the Episode III novelizatoin yet, maby it says but now if there were Clone Troopers that werent with their commanders did they get the 66 directive? i mean int he comic that has Luke meeting a Clone Trooper, it seems he never heard of it, i guess they have to keep from say ing 66 infront of him or something but is it possible that there were some Clones that were just hanging out and never got it?
What comic does he meet a clone in?
Re: Lost Clones
Posted: 2005-06-19 10:25am
by Ghost Rider
Ender wrote:Tychu wrote:i havent read the Episode III novelizatoin yet, maby it says but now if there were Clone Troopers that werent with their commanders did they get the 66 directive? i mean int he comic that has Luke meeting a Clone Trooper, it seems he never heard of it, i guess they have to keep from say ing 66 infront of him or something but is it possible that there were some Clones that were just hanging out and never got it?
What comic does he meet a clone in?
Star Wars: Empire #26-27
Posted: 2005-06-21 10:45pm
by Jason von Evil
Odd, I would have thought most clonies would have either succumbed to clone madness or advanced age by then.
Posted: 2005-06-21 10:54pm
by Arancia a Orologia
Odd, I would have thought most clonies would have either succumbed to clone madness or advanced age by then.
Why would they succumb to "clone madness"? Do we have any evidence that it is something that ALL clones would succumb to? We know that the Kaminoans are 'master cloners,' and, if memory serves, Joruus C'Baoth is the only example we have of "clone madness."
Of course, I haven't read much of the EU, so I apologize if in the light of one novel or the other the above statement suddenly becomes incredibly asinine.
Posted: 2005-06-21 11:12pm
by Jason von Evil
Arancia a Orologia wrote:Odd, I would have thought most clonies would have either succumbed to clone madness or advanced age by then.
Why would they succumb to "clone madness"? Do we have any evidence that it is something that ALL clones would succumb to? We know that the Kaminoans are 'master cloners,' and, if memory serves, Joruus C'Baoth is the only example we have of "clone madness."
Of course, I haven't read much of the EU, so I apologize if in the light of one novel or the other the above statement suddenly becomes incredibly asinine.
There was an ARC Trooper named Alpha who suffered from it.
Posted: 2005-06-21 11:14pm
by Arancia a Orologia
Interesting. Google tells me that Alpha was in Republic comic #60, is that the one you are referring to? If so, I think I'll pick it up to check that out.
Posted: 2005-06-21 11:52pm
by DPDarkPrimus
C'both suffered from madness because of the accelerated cloning process. The Clonetroopers are modified to grow faster and such, but the cloning process itself is not sped up.
Posted: 2005-06-21 11:59pm
by The Grim Squeaker
Jason von Evil wrote:Arancia a Orologia wrote:Odd, I would have thought most clonies would have either succumbed to clone madness or advanced age by then.
Why would they succumb to "clone madness"? Do we have any evidence that it is something that ALL clones would succumb to? We know that the Kaminoans are 'master cloners,' and, if memory serves, Joruus C'Baoth is the only example we have of "clone madness."
Of course, I haven't read much of the EU, so I apologize if in the light of one novel or the other the above statement suddenly becomes incredibly asinine.
There was an ARC Trooper named Alpha who suffered from it.
When did that happen

up till Republic 70 or so he was training more ARC's,not going bat-shit insane?
Also didnt Jorus only go mad due to using the dark side on such a large scale ("mind controlling" large amounts of imp soldiers) while being a clone? I thought he was the main reason that cloning jedi is such a bad idea.
Posted: 2005-06-22 12:13am
by Noble Ire
Also didnt Jorus only go mad due to using the dark side on such a large scale ("mind controlling" large amounts of imp soldiers) while being a clone? I thought he was the main reason that cloning jedi is such a bad idea.
No, his madness resulted from being cloned in the first place. Even the spartii clones aided by being produced near Ysalamiri were unstable after an extended length of time (Major Tierce from the Thrawn Duology.)
Posted: 2005-06-22 09:48am
by Trooper TK12746
What happened with this clone Luke met?
Posted: 2005-06-22 10:32am
by The Grim Squeaker
Trooper TK12746 wrote:What happened with this clone Luke met?
Luuke (Luke's clone) caused a localized disruption in the force, Mara killed it and that let Luke help deal with C'borath who exploded from his Dark side energy.
Posted: 2005-06-22 11:07am
by The Original Nex
Alpha only went mad because, during his training, some of Jango Fett's memories were implanted into his own, making him confused as to which memeories were real, and which were implaneted. THAT'S what made him go bat-shit insane, not the fact that he's a clone.