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I recently relistened to the radio this past week on the worlds most boring road trip. A few things said in it got me a ponderin since seeing ROTS. Most of it is mostly things stated by Obi-Wan, gives an interesting insight and made me rethink a lot of things.

First, when Luke asks a question about the Jedi (this isn't an exact quote so bear with me), Obi-Wan says that they arent entirly alone(him and Luke as Jedi), but he wouldn't expect much help from them, if any at all. This tied in with the scene in ROTS in the Jedi Temple where Obi-Wan alters the signal to tell any Jedi listening to get the heck outta Dodge. This leads me to believe that, yes Jedi survived, but this also brings up another question. When the rebelion started to gain momentum, you would think that some of the survivors would start to come out of hiding and join in right? There is nothing that says they didn't but nothing that says they did either. You gotta wonder if those that survived simply gave up their Jedi beliefs and tried to live as normal of a life as possible

Another interesting bit that came up was when Luke was talking to C3PO about his first encounter with Ben Kenobi. He talks about when he got lost in Beggers Canyon and Ben lead him out and how Owen Lars got in an argument with Ben. Luke talked about how Ben seemed like he wanted to say something to him, but Owen wouldn't give him the opertunity. It makes me think that Obi-Wan wanted to tell Luke then about who he was and what his role was to be. This insident apperently took place 5 years before the beginning of ANH. If Obi-Wan was able to tell Luke then and begin his training then, I wonder how events would have panned out from there.

Bit numuro three, Obi-Wans method of training of Luke. He starts his training on the Falcon by going through lightsaber positions. It's interesting he starts with this as he states he has to acclerate Lukes training. The different saber positions apperently allow the user to focus in on different aspects of the force. The way Obi-Wan goes on after Luke's finished (including the target drone part), Luke just accomplished a great deal of learning in that time. I get the feeling that it's a combo of Luke just being good at feeling the force, and Obi-Wan using the 'cliff notes' version of teaching the force which is what him and Yoda decided was going to be needing in order to get shit straight.

I'm sure this has probably been dabled on a bit here, but it's interesting to go over that after the saga has wrapped up

I would guess that Jedi who survived the Clone Wars and Palpatine's purge would be laying low, as the Empire dominates almost every planet in the Galaxy, and anyone showing Force abilities would immediately cause a large force of Imperials to execute the person, or even Vader himself. Obviously, they could not be of any help at all to Obi-Wan and Luke, as probably they are out of communication and would have no means of transport. Whether they would join the rebellion is an interesting question. Judging by the abilities of Palpatine and Vader to sense those who are strong in the force, probably a Jedi who is actively using his powers to help the rebels would attract much Imperial attention.

As with Owen Lars and Obi-Wan, I highly doubt that even with Obi-Wan guiding him out of a canyon he would let Obi-Wan speak with Luke. Judging how he and Beru spoke about him, Obi-Wan seemed like more of a shadowy person with an unknown past, and it would be in Luke's best interests to stay away from a person like that. If Owen had let Luke be trained, that would be quite interesting, as in TESB, Luke faced Vader completely unprepared and unready. With 5 years of extra training, the outcome could have been diferrent. However, Vader has been training his entire life and has far more experience than Luke, 5 years of training or not.

With Obi-Wan's method of training on the Falcon, obviously he could not start with the basics and guide Luke through all the necessary points. Since Luke was strong in the Force to begin with, lightsaber training straight forward would not have been difficult, and as revealed in TESB, he intended for Luke to go to Dagobah and train further with Yoda. Obviously, this doesn't happen, as both training sessions are cut short by more important issues(the Death Star, Han and Leia captured on Bespin). But what kind of suspense could you expect if Luke had 5 years of training with Obi-Wan on Tatooine and further training with Yoda? That would be a long and boring movie indeed.

It has been quite a long time since I heard the radio drama. It was quite well done from what I remember, filling in some details nicely. As far as other Jedi surviving I think that might be a reference to the novelization of A New Hope in which it was mentioned that Jedi existed elsewhere....if I do recall correctly. On the other hand the novelization also spoke of Lord Vader as if he was just one of a number of Sith who were active in the galaxy.

I wouldn't be surprised if some of those ideas were later retroactively modified, though surviving Jedi would make sure that Vader would always be kept busy.

Augustus Caesar wrote:As with Owen Lars and Obi-Wan, I highly doubt that even with Obi-Wan guiding him out of a canyon he would let Obi-Wan speak with Luke. Judging how he and Beru spoke about him, Obi-Wan seemed like more of a shadowy person with an unknown past, and it would be in Luke's best interests to stay away from a person like that. If Owen had let Luke be trained, that would be quite interesting, as in TESB, Luke faced Vader completely unprepared and unready. With 5 years of extra training, the outcome could have been diferrent. However, Vader has been training his entire life and has far more experience than Luke, 5 years of training or not.

But Vader was facing his own flesh and blood, and the only thing that remained of Padme. Luke, on the other hand, was confronting the monster who had killed his family.