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Darth Vader blew the Battle of Endor
Posted: 2005-06-30 01:39am
by Seeing Red
When the Executor was talking to the shuttle Tydrium, Darth Vader was right there. Shouldn't he have instructed his captain to HOLD the shuttle, apply a tractor beam, bring it aboard the Executor, and taken luke to the DS II to meet the Emperor?
This would also have avoided the whole unpleasantry of having the deflector shield being downed.
Re: Darth Vader blew the Battle of Endor
Posted: 2005-06-30 01:41am
by Jack Bauer
Seeing Red wrote:When the Executor was talking to the shuttle Tydrium, Darth Vader was right there. Shouldn't he have instructed his captain to HOLD the shuttle, apply a tractor beam, bring it aboard the Executor, and taken luke to the DS II to meet the Emperor?
This would also have avoided the whole unpleasantry of having the deflector shield being downed.
God, did you even WATCH the movie? THe Emperor told Luke aboard the Death Star that "A LEGION of my best troops awaits them" on the Endor surface. Palpatine INTENDED for the Rebels to land and then for his troops to massacre them.
What he DIDN'T count on was the surprisingly effective revolt of the native Ewok population. Idiot.
Re: Darth Vader blew the Battle of Endor
Posted: 2005-06-30 02:56am
by wautd
Seeing Red wrote:When the Executor was talking to the shuttle Tydrium, Darth Vader was right there. Shouldn't he have instructed his captain to HOLD the shuttle, apply a tractor beam, bring it aboard the Executor, and taken luke to the DS II to meet the Emperor?
This would also have avoided the whole unpleasantry of having the deflector shield being downed.
The whole point was to lure the rebel fleet in a trap. They had to believe the shield was down. Intercepting the rebel shuttle would result in the rebel fleet staying home
Re: Darth Vader blew the Battle of Endor
Posted: 2005-06-30 06:53am
by Sharp-kun
wautd wrote:
The whole point was to lure the rebel fleet in a trap. They had to believe the shield was down. Intercepting the rebel shuttle would result in the rebel fleet staying home
The impression I got was that once the shuttle entered the Endor system there would be no contact with the fleet (so as not to alert the Empire if the transmission were intercepted). As far as we see, the fleet had no way of knowing if the commandos had succeeded until they arrived, they just had to trust that they had.
Nabbing the shuttle wouldn't have alerted the fleet. Throw down some heavy jamming and tractor them in. The rebel fleet would be none the wiser, they'd enter the system as normal, the battle would take place as before, except this time the shield wouldn't fall.
Re: Darth Vader blew the Battle of Endor
Posted: 2005-06-30 07:12am
by Kenoshi
Sharp-kun wrote:wautd wrote:
The whole point was to lure the rebel fleet in a trap. They had to believe the shield was down. Intercepting the rebel shuttle would result in the rebel fleet staying home
The impression I got was that once the shuttle entered the Endor system there would be no contact with the fleet (so as not to alert the Empire if the transmission were intercepted). As far as we see, the fleet had no way of knowing if the commandos had succeeded until they arrived, they just had to trust that they had.
Nabbing the shuttle wouldn't have alerted the fleet. Throw down some heavy jamming and tractor them in. The rebel fleet would be none the wiser, they'd enter the system as normal, the battle would take place as before, except this time the shield wouldn't fall.
It could be that the Impies didn't know that the Rebel force wouldn't communicate with the fleet once they reached Endor and so allowed them to land as to not interrupt any potential attempts to summon in the fleet.
Posted: 2005-06-30 10:42am
by Lord Pounder
Surely a Lambda class shuttle has a comm on board, if Executor slapped on a tractor beam it's be simple to send a messaged to break off the attack.
Posted: 2005-06-30 11:45am
by CaptJodan
Also it was clear that Han was ready to jump out fast if anything got too suspicious. He probably had his hand on the hyperdrive button, waiting to run. The Imperials couldn't take the chance that the shuttle might get away (we saw in ESB that the Falcon flew right next to the Executor, yet wasn't tractored. It was only about to be tractored). Perhaps the shuttle would have sensed the imperials warming up their tractors, and would have jumped clear. Either way, I think it's safe to say that this was all part of the Emperor's plan.
Posted: 2005-06-30 01:08pm
by Patrick Degan
Order 66 wrote:Seeing Red wrote:When the Executor was talking to the shuttle Tydrium, Darth Vader was right there. Shouldn't he have instructed his captain to HOLD the shuttle, apply a tractor beam, bring it aboard the Executor, and taken luke to the DS II to meet the Emperor?
This would also have avoided the whole unpleasantry of having the deflector shield being downed.
God, did you even WATCH the movie? THe Emperor told Luke aboard the Death Star that "A LEGION of my best troops awaits them" on the Endor surface. Palpatine INTENDED for the Rebels to land and then for his troops to massacre them.
What he DIDN'T count on was the surprisingly effective revolt of the native Ewok population. Idiot.
Actually, it was more that he didn't count on Col. Klink in the shield bunker being stupid enough to open the blast-doors on the mere sayso of what appeared to be a trooper.