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SW OT Deleted Scenes and DVDs
Posted: 2005-07-19 03:15pm
by Elheru Aran
So I was wondering, the DVD Special Features disk had a slideshow of images from the sets and production of the Original Trilogy, and there were a fair few deleted scenes among them...
The question is, would these deleted scenes improve the DVDs? Would they contribute to our knowledge of SW? Flesh out the stories a little more? Or would they be unnecessary excresences upon the smooth flow that is the Original Trilogy, impeding its magnificence and scope?
An additional question-- what canonicity, if any, do these deleted scenes have?
Another question-- could someone list these scenes? I only know of a few, most from ANH...
Posted: 2005-07-19 03:30pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
I don't see how they could contribute to my knowledge personally, since I've already seen about half of them and know exactly what goes on in the ones I haven't seen yet.
All I know is that they'll be on the set that will be out around 2007 or 2008 or so.
Posted: 2005-07-19 04:09pm
by Xero Cool Down
what canonicity, if any, do these deleted scenes have?
If they are included in the movies and not just a deleted scenes category then they carry just as much authority as the original scenes.
Posted: 2005-07-19 04:20pm
by Noble Ire
I'd certainly like to see them, but I wouldn't mind if they werent reincorperated. I think that the films do find thematically right now, and adding too many scenes might slow them down a bit.
As for canonosity, I would say they are unless contradicted by the film as a whole, like most sources.
Posted: 2005-07-19 04:27pm
by Mange
Xero Cool Down wrote:what canonicity, if any, do these deleted scenes have?
If they are included in the movies and not just a deleted scenes category then they carry just as much authority as the original scenes.
I thought they were regarded pretty much on the same level as the movies themselves (those that are included as finished deleted scenes that is)?
Posted: 2005-07-19 04:32pm
by Noble Ire
Mange the Swede wrote:Xero Cool Down wrote:what canonicity, if any, do these deleted scenes have?
If they are included in the movies and not just a deleted scenes category then they carry just as much authority as the original scenes.
I thought they were regarded pretty much on the same level as the movies themselves (those that are included as finished deleted scenes that is)?
IN most cases, you would be right, but there are a few scenes, like a handful of ones in AOTC, which are essentially combonations of dialogue scenes from the movies condensed and placed in different places and times, replaced lster on, but still filmed. They arent canon as far as I know (contradicted.)
Posted: 2005-07-19 04:42pm
by Instant Sunrise
I think the deleted scenes have REALLY deteriorated over the years.
The prints of the Luke/Treadwell scene where he is looking at the battle above him have had all their color fade, and the audio tracks are gone.(It had been sitting on top of a boiler)
The Toshe Station/Anchorhead scenes are in a bit better condition, but still in pretty bad shape.
The biggest interest for me would be the sandstorm scene from ROTJ, because it is the only MF external set built for the movie, all the other shots of it are matte paintings, or models. Compared to ANH's 1 and a half MF's, and ESB's 3.
My only problem with re-inserting the sandstorm scene is my same gripe with the Jabba Scene in ANH. Some of the dialog is the same, making it redundant.
Posted: 2005-07-19 04:56pm
by Xero Cool Down
Mange the Swede wrote:Xero Cool Down wrote:what canonicity, if any, do these deleted scenes have?
If they are included in the movies and not just a deleted scenes category then they carry just as much authority as the original scenes.
I thought they were regarded pretty much on the same level as the movies themselves (those that are included as finished deleted scenes that is)?
If by "included" you mean in the movie then you just repeated what I said. If you mean just in the DVD, then no, it has no canon status at all, since it was never intended to become part of the movie or storyline.
Posted: 2005-07-19 05:06pm
by Instant Sunrise
Right. The original Biggs hangar cene on Yavin IV has the squad leader, make a reference to Luke's father, in terms of his flying ability.
Completely out of place whn Empire rolled around. Even moreso now.