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Q1.-Has GA Thrawn ever studied art of some culture and went "uh-oh..."?
Q2.-What would Thrawn derive from the attempts at art from...Hitler?

Enola Straight wrote:Q1.-Has GA Thrawn ever studied art of some culture and went "uh-oh..."?

as far as I know, no. Thrawn uses the art as window to a culture, he only gets a picture of the spirit of the people from it.

Q2.-What would Thrawn derive from the attempts at art from...Hitler?

apart that he's an bad artist, probaly nothing (Nazi era german art is different case though).

There is one culture's art that he studied that he could not understand so he had the culture eradicated. (Going from memory from the Thrawn trilogy)

1) No, only "Ah, so they cant handle a circle maneuver"

2) He would understand his desire for importance while being mediocre and from the knowledge of his rejection guess what he might do if left in power.

When Thrawn was a Captain, he was ordered by Palpatine to lead an invasion of some race, but he refused, claiming the mission would fail. Did he study that race's art to determine this?

Stravo wrote:There is one culture's art that he studied that he could not understand so he had the culture eradicated. (Going from memory from the Thrawn trilogy)

You're right on the money.

Jason von Evil wrote:When Thrawn was a Captain, he was ordered by Palpatine to lead an invasion of some race, but he refused, claiming the mission would fail. Did he study that race's art to determine this?

No. He used troop numbers, allocation of assets and mission goals to determine that.

EDIT :: What I'm trying to say is that Thrawn wasn't the kind of guy who when given a mission would say; right, all I'll need is a copy of some of their art and I'll be right to go!

He used art to get little 'insights' on how to make a more 'affective' strike to minimise losses and maximise results, but it wasn't essential. More of a way to get a 'one up' thing for him.

Thrawn studied art to understand the race behind it, and made linkages between how their art changes over the years and how their culture changes. The example givin is when one such race finaly met another intellgent race that the art of the time changed from being peaceful and idealic to fearful and scared before reverting back after people got to know the other races.


Thus fundmently they were terrified of the unknow, once the unknow is know however they deal with it just fine.
Thrawn uses art to gain insight but not to plan battle stratagy's(Except for taking advantage of weaknesses.)

Jason von Evil wrote:When Thrawn was a Captain, he was ordered by Palpatine to lead an invasion of some race, but he refused, claiming the mission would fail. Did he study that race's art to determine this?

Thrawn said that because the Emperor wouldn't give him what he needed to succeed. After it failed the Emperor learned that when Thrawn said you need more ships and men you should listen, and put Thrawn in charge of doing it giving Thrawn whatever he said he needed.

His study of Art was to supliment his already impressive strategic skills. Without his understanding of an overall battle plan, art would have been useless

NRS Guardian wrote:

Jason von Evil wrote:When Thrawn was a Captain, he was ordered by Palpatine to lead an invasion of some race, but he refused, claiming the mission would fail. Did he study that race's art to determine this?

Thrawn said that because the Emperor wouldn't give him what he needed to succeed. After it failed the Emperor learned that when Thrawn said you need more ships and men you should listen, and put Thrawn in charge of doing it giving Thrawn whatever he said he needed.

I know that.

Understanding the fundamentals of battle planning is needed before going into anything else in any case. One thing that I think needs to be considered is that studying a culture's art would be less insightful than an individual in question, in regards to gaining potential initiative.

Source

Sample of Hitler's art. Surprisingly not all that bad. But the website I downloaded it from probably chose to display only his best work, but I digress.

I think that Thrawn's studying of art was more than just a one-shot tactic, mainly because he destroyed an entire race of beings on the grounds that he couldn't understand them (well maybe not the ONLY grounds). He also attributed his ability to recognize an Elomin task force, and his subsequent attack, to his studying and understanding of their art.

DoctorPhanan wrote:I think that Thrawn's studying of art was more than just a one-shot tactic, mainly because he destroyed an entire race of beings on the grounds that he couldn't understand them (well maybe not the ONLY grounds).

From what I understand, Thrawn was more interested in CONTROLLING races instead of destroying them. If he was able to understand that race, he would've tried to bring them under Imperial rule, maybe recruited them into his forces. He probably destroyed that race because he didn't have enough info to go "Hey, race A values item B highly. If I use item B as a bargaining chip in negotiations, race A will accept Imperial rule with minimum protest."