Yes the link is undressed, but theres an interesting feature in der URL. (the fact that it says DUCK of course)
SW Databank Entry on Ducks wrote:An enigmatic waterfowl from worlds scattered across the galaxy, ducks are often referred to in a number of colorful expressions. During Queen Amidala's escape from Naboo, Captain Panaka was heard to lament the likelihood of their being hit by Trade Federation cannonades. He likened their position to being "sitting ducks."
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And, according to the ANH novelization, Luke had never heard of them until after he bought a certain pair of used droids.
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Been in there a while. IIRC according to the Behind the Magic CD Luke mentioned once owning a dog in the ANH novel as well.
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I guess if you are trying to explain this without loss of Suspension of Disbelief, you could say various creatures from the human homeworld were brought along on colonization efforts, and that many of those creatures were then brought along further.. Though the horse on Endor, that's pretty confusing.
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VT-16 wrote:Since we clearly see statues of lions and horses on Naboo (and a horse on Endor in one of the ewok movies), ducks are hardly surprising.
It wasn't called "horse" though. I don't recall the name of it. If you check it out, there's a lot of different dog-, snake- and horse- like creatures for example. It may just be a superficial similarity.
observer_20000 wrote:Since humans in SW have to have come from Earth, it's not that hard to stretch it and say that animals were brought along for some reason as well.
Why do humans in SW have to come from Earth? "A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away..."
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"Have some of you Americans actually seen Football? Of course there are 0-0 draws but that doesn't make them any less exciting." -Dr Roberts, with quite possibly the dumbest thing ever said in 10 years of SDNet.
observer_20000 wrote:Since humans in SW have to have come from Earth, it's not that hard to stretch it and say that animals were brought along for some reason as well.
Why do humans in SW have to come from Earth? "A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away..."
SoD. The chance of simultaneous evolution is so astronomically low that it's effectively impossible.
And they can originate from Earth and it still be "A long time ago...", since modern humans are roughly 200,000 years old.
SoD. The chance of simultaneous evolution is so astronomically low that it's effectively impossible.
But, isn't the existance of human-shape species in such a large number (yes, I realize many are human offshoots, and there is the whole Twi'Lek thing, but not all can be accounted for in this way) equally as unlikely?
And doesnt SoD work the other way, indicating that the humans in SW aren't Earthlings?
Darkarne- Would Wong's scenario give humanity enough genetic diversity to survive, though? I don't know how many crew members were on the ship, but it didn't sound like a lot.
Jacen had rounded up a bunch of babies to train as Dark Jedi that got sent along for the ride in Wong's fic. I think that's why they had enough people to found a viable colony.
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Dakarne wrote:Maybe a space-time vortex caught a Human Ship and dumped them in the SW Galaxy... So it's a Long Time Ago, and Far, Far Away!
Yes, I stole the Idea from DW's Fic Conquest... it just seemed to fit in my opinion.
There are actually theories (such as the "Hyperspace Aliens" theory that IP and I share) that don't involve time travel, something which has pretty much been completely absent in Star Wars.
It's also possible, that it happened in reverse. Maybe a ship fromCorellia or Coruscant crashed or was forced to land on Earth. Or Earth is a colony of the SW Humans and was cut off, lost, and became a feral world.
Most likely, some other race created humans on MORE THAN ONE world, including Coruscant, Corellia, Earth, etc and most likely the other humanlike races (conehead dude, tenticle head chick, blue devlil dude, etc) from some original template, probably their own physical characteristics.
18-Till-I-Die wrote:It's also possible, that it happened in reverse. Maybe a ship fromCorellia or Coruscant crashed or was forced to land on Earth. Or Earth is a colony of the SW Humans and was cut off, lost, and became a feral world.
Most likely, some other race created humans on MORE THAN ONE world, including Coruscant, Corellia, Earth, etc and most likely the other humanlike races (conehead dude, tenticle head chick, blue devlil dude, etc) from some original template, probably their own physical characteristics.
No. The fossil record shows fairly conclusively that the human race evolved on this planet. It shows a pretty much unbroken ancestry going back to species that could not under even the most generous of circumstances be called "human." There is also nothing in the Star Wars movies or EU that indicates that any world in the Galaxy Far Far Away shares this characteristic, so the most reasonable conclusion is that the humans in the Star Wars galaxy originated on Earth.
"Stop! No one can survive these deadly rays!"
"These deadly rays will be your death!"
- Thor and Akton, Starcrash
"Before man reaches the moon your mail will be delivered within hours from New York to California, to England, to India or to Australia by guided missiles.... We stand on the threshold of rocket mail."
- Arthur Summerfield, US Postmaster General 1953 - 1961
In a sort of Twilight Zone way, could experimental hyperdrives from Earth have simulated time travel by transmitting information (aka colony ship) to another galaxy far far away, before it even left earth from their point of view (aka a long time ago)?
As I understand it, 'realistic' treatments of FTL without technobabble made for this would violate causality because at the very least information arrives earlier than light could, and because you can end up leaving before you started if you travel far enough fast enough. (or maybe the latter is just something I got mixed in with the Warp)
MRDOD wrote:In a sort of Twilight Zone way, could experimental hyperdrives from Earth have simulated time travel by transmitting information (aka colony ship) to another galaxy far far away, before it even left earth from their point of view (aka a long time ago)?
As I understand it, 'realistic' treatments of FTL without technobabble made for this would violate causality because at the very least information arrives earlier than light could, and because you can end up leaving before you started if you travel far enough fast enough. (or maybe the latter is just something I got mixed in with the Warp)
No, that's not how relativity works. Time never goes backwards. It slows down as you approach the speed of light, and speeds up as you go past it, but it never goes backwards.
Relativistic time travel can only send you forward in time. Travelling backwards is completely impossible in that fasion.
Dakarne wrote:Maybe a space-time vortex caught a Human Ship and dumped them in the SW Galaxy... So it's a Long Time Ago, and Far, Far Away!
Yes, I stole the Idea from DW's Fic Conquest... it just seemed to fit in my opinion.
There are actually theories (such as the "Hyperspace Aliens" theory that IP and I share) that don't involve time travel, something which has pretty much been completely absent in Star Wars.
Isn't the hyperspace aliens theory pretty much a deus ex like all the other theories?
Btw, add lizards to the "earth creatures" list, and those water fowl (ducks? geese? swans?) on Naboo when the Bongo surfaces in TPM.
Kurgan wrote:Isn't the hyperspace aliens theory pretty much a deus ex like all the other theories?
Sort of, but at least it uses something that's been sort of established rather than shit that's just made up like most of the other ones.
But aren't the 'Hyperspace Aliens' fanon? Fanon is still "made up shit," right? I mean all I remember is that novel (Darksaber?) saying to the effect of (referring to the Maw installation) "some believed that the black holes were arranged that way by powerful beings", but that's a literal deus ex! They also said it could be a random process of cosmic evolution/catastrophy.
Time travel, godlike beings, a random cosmic anomaly...
