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Sith

Posted: 2005-08-18 01:31pm
by Max
I have a random question, and I was just talking to my best friend about this.

Q: Why aren't the Sith mentioned in the original Star Wars Trilogy?

Did something happen that they were mentioned in only the prequels? I don't recall them ever being mentioned in the updated original movies. I could be wrong, and happened to not be paying close enough attention, so I apologize in advance.

Re: Sith

Posted: 2005-08-18 01:33pm
by Aaron
mplsjocc wrote:I have a random question, and I was just talking to my best friend about this.

Q: Why aren't the Sith mentioned in the original Star Wars Trilogy?

Did something happen that they were mentioned in only the prequels? I don't recall them ever being mentioned in the updated original movies. I could be wrong, and happened to not be paying close enough attention, so I apologize in advance.
Wasn't Vader referred to as a Dark Lord of the Sith in the ANH opening crawl?

Re: Sith

Posted: 2005-08-18 01:33pm
by Lord Revan
mplsjocc wrote:I have a random question, and I was just talking to my best friend about this.

Q: Why aren't the Sith mentioned in the original Star Wars Trilogy?

Did something happen that they were mentioned in only the prequels? I don't recall them ever being mentioned in the updated original movies. I could be wrong, and happened to not be paying close enough attention, so I apologize in advance.
they mentioned in ANH novelization, but just not in any of the movies.

Posted: 2005-08-18 01:33pm
by Quadlok
I'm almost certain that Vader is reffered to as a Sith lord in the movies, and he absolutely is in the novelisations.

Posted: 2005-08-18 01:34pm
by Dakarne
Q: Why aren't the Sith mentioned in the original Star Wars Trilogy?
They are in the Novels.
Did something happen that they were mentioned in only the prequels? I don't recall them ever being mentioned in the updated original movies. I could be wrong, and happened to not be paying close enough attention, so I apologize in advance.
They weren't mentioned, I think public knowledge of the Sith was quashed and downplayed by Sidious... since the Sith have, on many occaisions, conquered the galaxy and plunged it into darkness.

Posted: 2005-08-18 02:10pm
by Shadow WarChief
I am absolutely certain that at no point in the OT movies was the term "sith" mentioned in conversaton or in any opening crawl.

The closest anyone comes is "Dark Lord" and that Vader is a practictioner of the "Dark Side".

"Sith" simply doesn't pop up at any point.

Posted: 2005-08-18 02:24pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
I am personally 1000% positive that the term "Sith" is never mentioned at all in any of the OT films.

Posted: 2005-08-18 02:32pm
by Aaron
Shadow WarChief wrote:I am absolutely certain that at no point in the OT movies was the term "sith" mentioned in conversaton or in any opening crawl.
Your right about the crawl, I just checked Wikipedia and it isn't in the crawl for any of the OT films.

Posted: 2005-08-18 02:42pm
by Panzer Grenadier
I think it wasn't really that important to the main story of the films to go into in the OT. However, the sith were definatley in lucas' mind because it is mentioned in the book.

Posted: 2005-08-18 04:14pm
by Mange
Panzer Grenadier wrote:I think it wasn't really that important to the main story of the films to go into in the OT. However, the sith were definatley in lucas' mind because it is mentioned in the book.
And mentioned in most of the early drafts. The Sith were first mentioned in the rough draft (dated May 1974), but in the first draft (dated July 1974) the Sith were referred to as the "Legions of Lettow", but was reverted back to the Black Knights of the Sith in the second draft (dated January 1975).

Posted: 2005-08-18 06:32pm
by Instant Sunrise
The Sith were not mentioned in the FINAL opening crawl on ANH. In fact, ANH mention's the Empire's "sinister agents" Nowhere NEAR mentioning, the force, Sith, or Jedi.

Earlier versions of the opening crawl had mentions of the Sith. As well as earlier drafts of the script for A New Hope.

Posted: 2005-08-18 07:44pm
by Drooling Iguana
Mange the Swede wrote:
Panzer Grenadier wrote:I think it wasn't really that important to the main story of the films to go into in the OT. However, the sith were definatley in lucas' mind because it is mentioned in the book.
And mentioned in most of the early drafts. The Sith were first mentioned in the rough draft (dated May 1974), but in the first draft (dated July 1974) the Sith were referred to as the "Legions of Lettow", but was reverted back to the Black Knights of the Sith in the second draft (dated January 1975).
Actually, the Sith were mentioned in the first draft. There were actually two versions of the first draft, with the only significant difference between beiing certain names. In the first version of the first draft the dark knights were the Sith and they hunted the Jedi Bendu, while in the revised edition they were the Legions of Lettow and hunted the Dia Noga.

Posted: 2005-08-19 07:33pm
by Tychu
Panzer Grenadier wrote:I think it wasn't really that important to the main story of the films to go into in the OT. However, the sith were definatley in lucas' mind because it is mentioned in the book.
thank you for taking my point

see int he Prequel Trilogy the main story is about the Sith defeating the Jedi

the Original Trilogy is the rebirth of the Jedi and the Rebellion defeating the Empire