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What is a Grade III battlestation?

Posted: 2005-09-18 10:56am
by Star Wars Fan
In the Munificant Separitist destroyer, it says that the 2 front cannons can "pierce the shields of a 10 kn wide Grade III battlestation. what is that?

Posted: 2005-09-18 10:58am
by Ace Pace
First off, you mean a Golan 3 station, which is something roughly with the mass of an ISD(if I remember Wedge's Gamble correctly), but with far greater power(no need to move).

Posted: 2005-09-18 11:03am
by Star Wars Fan
Ace Pace wrote:First off, you mean a Golan 3 station, which is something roughly with the mass of an ISD(if I remember Wedge's Gamble correctly), but with far greater power(no need to move).
i thought that, but did Golan build battlestations during the Clone Wars? amd a G/3 is 1.5km, not 10km. maybe Curtis Saxton made a mistake, and you're right.

(they refer to this in the Episode III Incredible cross ections)

Posted: 2005-09-18 11:08am
by Ace Pace
There could have been differant versions of the Golan battlestations.

Sidenote: This is another example of editors not catching references to real life, as Golan is a mountain area in the Israel-Syrian border.

Posted: 2005-09-18 11:12am
by Star Wars Fan
Ace Pace wrote:There could have been differant versions of the Golan battlestations.

Sidenote: This is another example of editors not catching references to real life, as Golan is a mountain area in the Israel-Syrian border.
thank you, Golan did build other things

Posted: 2005-09-18 11:40am
by Illuminatus Primus
No, he means Grade III, and apparently there are huge battlestations in operation back in the Clone Wars that the Banking Clan frigates can house with their siege guns.

Posted: 2005-09-18 01:57pm
by FTeik
Grade III stations are said to be 10 kilometers wide. Golan3-stations are only 2.2 kilometers wide.

Re: What is a Grade III battlestation?

Posted: 2005-09-18 02:08pm
by Sea Skimmer
Star Wars Fan wrote:In the Munificant Separitist destroyer, it says that the 2 front cannons can "pierce the shields of a 10 kn wide Grade III battlestation. what is that?
Everything written in the book represents the sum total of all that is known about 'Grade III' battlestations. Presumably its just a general size classification, and probably includes a range of different designs built by different manufacturers.

The fact that a frigate can hurt one is damn stupid though. Simple because of the huge size disparity (and the battlestations doesn't have to devote mass and energy to propulsion) it ought to be quite immune to even the entire reactor output of a mere frigate. Seriously now, no one would ever build fortifications that big if they could be harmed by even minor enemy combatants.

Posted: 2005-09-18 03:20pm
by VT-16
I dunno, those front Munificent turbolasers were pretty damn massive.

Posted: 2005-09-18 04:04pm
by Glimmervoid
VT-16 wrote:I dunno, those front Munificent turbolasers were pretty damn massive.
Maybe is some Super duper use all the hypermatter up in one go mode.

Posted: 2005-09-18 04:29pm
by Alan Bolte
This really has nothing to do with reactor output and everything to do with capacitor size and the gun itself. I doubt it could fire at full power more than once a day, if that. Much like the first Death Star.

Re: What is a Grade III battlestation?

Posted: 2005-09-18 04:55pm
by Star Wars Fan
Sea Skimmer wrote:
Star Wars Fan wrote:In the Munificant Separitist destroyer, it says that the 2 front cannons can "pierce the shields of a 10 kn wide Grade III battlestation. what is that?
Everything written in the book represents the sum total of all that is known about 'Grade III' battlestations. Presumably its just a general size classification, and probably includes a range of different designs built by different manufacturers.
okay, thank you
The fact that a frigate can hurt one is damn stupid though. Simple because of the huge size disparity (and the battlestations doesn't have to devote mass and energy to propulsion) it ought to be quite immune to even the entire reactor output of a mere frigate. Seriously now, no one would ever build fortifications that big if they could be harmed by even minor enemy combatants.
the Munificent frigate warships have very large turbolasers, and can't the local shields be overwhelmed if they fire quickly enough (in Isard's Revenge, Rogue Squadron fired their Proton Torpedoes all at once at one part of a Golan II battlestation, taking the shields out, allowing the Assault Frigates Tyrant's Bane and Liberty Star to disable it

Posted: 2005-09-18 05:10pm
by Grandmaster Jogurt
The Munifiscent's guns are said to be able to blast-melt an ice moon 1000 km in diameter (RotS:ICS 15). This gives an output of 6.62*10^7 gigatons or 66.2 petatons. If this energy is delivered all at once, it could possibly overwhelm the heat sinks that were designed to withstand larger amounts of energy but over longer periods of time.

Note that the Munifiscent takes (IIRC) 22 minutes to recharge after firing a shot like that.

Re: What is a Grade III battlestation?

Posted: 2005-09-19 02:34am
by Illuminatus Primus
Sea Skimmer wrote:
Star Wars Fan wrote:In the Munificant Separitist destroyer, it says that the 2 front cannons can "pierce the shields of a 10 kn wide Grade III battlestation. what is that?
Everything written in the book represents the sum total of all that is known about 'Grade III' battlestations. Presumably its just a general size classification, and probably includes a range of different designs built by different manufacturers.

The fact that a frigate can hurt one is damn stupid though. Simple because of the huge size disparity (and the battlestations doesn't have to devote mass and energy to propulsion) it ought to be quite immune to even the entire reactor output of a mere frigate. Seriously now, no one would ever build fortifications that big if they could be harmed by even minor enemy combatants.
The reactor has to charge the siege guns for a long time, and it consumes a large amount of the ship's mass-energy fuel.