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Can they?
Posted: 2005-11-15 09:17pm
by The Jazz Intern
Can hand blasters actually do damage to star wars vehicles? lets use for example,
1. Hans blaster from A new hope
2. a stromtrooper blaster carbine
3. a big tattooine stormie gun.
lets use for vehicles:
1. The millenium falcon
2. an AT-AT
3. an AT-ST
4. a snow speeder
Feel free to substitute any others in. thanks!
Posted: 2005-11-15 09:23pm
by Noble Ire
The MF has light starship-grade plating. Nothing short of an E-Web will do any damage (although the large stormy rifle might be able to penetrate.) At-Ats could withstand field turrets with enough firepower to blow an AT-ST in half. Think about it. AT-STs are probably highly resistant to sidearms as well, although they do have vulnerable points that could be destroyed under heavy assault. I would imagine Snowspeeders would be armored similarly.
Re: Can they?
Posted: 2005-11-15 09:55pm
by Knife
The Jazz Intern wrote:Can hand blasters actually do damage to star wars vehicles? lets use for example,
1. Hans blaster from A new hope
I would imagine that since he took chunks out of concrete or duracrete or whatever, that he'd be able to take out civilian craft pretty easy or unarmored military vehicles, like speeders and swoops.
2. a stromtrooper blaster carbine
Stormie blasters were making some serious sparks when blasting the Falcon on Bespin, but neither Lando nor Chewie seemed to worried about permemant damage, nor did Han when Stormies were shooting his ship up on Hoth.
However, Stormtroopers did shoot up a Sandcrawler with presumable their E11's and the light repeating blaster. So again, I'm sure that lightly armored craft would be suseptable.
3. a big tattooine stormie gun.
lets use for vehicles:
Most definately for light vehicles.
1. The millenium falcon
Nope, unless they got lucky and hit something importent that was exposed.
2. an AT-AT
Nope, fully armored.
3. an AT-ST
The repeater may have a good shot at this with all the exposed pieces parts of the thing.
4. a snow speeder
Feel free to substitute any others in. thanks!
I don't think they were armored at all, so......
Posted: 2005-11-15 10:03pm
by NeoGoomba
Were the Stormtroopers on Bespin using full on blaster rifles or just the blaster carbines?
Posted: 2005-11-15 10:06pm
by Knife
NeoGoomba wrote:Were the Stormtroopers on Bespin using full on blaster rifles or just the blaster carbines?
IIRC, carbines. I don't remember any T-21's there.
Posted: 2005-11-15 10:10pm
by Kurgan
They were carrying other weapons (larger, longer) besides E-11s on Tatooine however. In that particular scene (shooting up the Falcon) though I don't know...
There is a chunk blasted out of the Falcon, but that seems to always be there in the movies, from some unseen battle or impact.
In AOTC they shoot at Dooku's ship. Were they just doing so futiley? Dooku didn't seem worried. Did they honestly think they could down his ship?
Or how about Leia firing at the Slave I in ESB? Again, just in frustration? What if she'd downed the ship.. wouldn't that be curtains for Han?
The ESB rebel troops appear to be firing their rifles at the oncoming walkers (AT-ST's and AT-AT's) additionally.
Posted: 2005-11-15 10:20pm
by Noble Ire
In AOTC they shoot at Dooku's ship. Were they just doing so futiley? Dooku didn't seem worried. Did they honestly think they could down his ship?
Or how about Leia firing at the Slave I in ESB? Again, just in frustration? What if she'd downed the ship.. wouldn't that be curtains for Han?
The ESB rebel troops appear to be firing their rifles at the oncoming walkers (AT-ST's and AT-AT's) additionally.
In all those cases, I would suspect those were acts of futile defiance or anger. The Rebels may have just been setting up a field of fire to ensure the walkers could disgorge any ground troops.
Posted: 2005-11-15 11:02pm
by Knife
Kurgan wrote:They were carrying other weapons (larger, longer) besides E-11s on Tatooine however. In that particular scene (shooting up the Falcon) though I don't know...
There is a chunk blasted out of the Falcon, but that seems to always be there in the movies, from some unseen battle or impact.
While the Falcon has armor, it's not seemless armor. It has exposed parts that could be vulnerable to blaster fire while other ships with 'complete' armor would not be.
In AOTC they shoot at Dooku's ship. Were they just doing so futiley? Dooku didn't seem worried. Did they honestly think they could down his ship?
Or how about Leia firing at the Slave I in ESB? Again, just in frustration? What if she'd downed the ship.. wouldn't that be curtains for Han?
The ESB rebel troops appear to be firing their rifles at the oncoming walkers (AT-ST's and AT-AT's) additionally.
Futiley and probably in anger for most of those example and/or hoping for a lucky shot.
Posted: 2005-11-15 11:05pm
by Elheru Aran
Noble Ire wrote:
In all those cases, I would suspect those were acts of futile defiance or anger. The Rebels may have just been setting up a field of fire to ensure the walkers could disgorge any ground troops.
Could
n't disgorge, I think you mean...
And regarding Dooku's ship-- most probably it already had shields up. One would hope that the Count of Serenno was intelligent enough to purchase a pilot droid which wasn't stupid... the droid, being aware of the battle going on, would've probably put up its shields as it lifted and exited the hangar.
If not shields, then we can likely reckon that space-capable craft in SW are made out of some pretty damn tough materials, as they should be... airspeeders like the snowspeeder, on the other hand, it depends. Snowspeeders, being cheap light vehicles-- essentially the SW version of a Piper Cub with two .50s and a winch strapped on-- would be practically unarmoured, easy meat for the AT-AT blaster cannons.
Re: Can they?
Posted: 2005-11-15 11:16pm
by KhyronTheBackstabber
Knife wrote:
4. a snow speeder
Feel free to substitute any others in. thanks!
I don't think they were armored at all, so......
Actually, they are armored.
Star wars Databank wrote:
The venerable Y-wing fighter became a prime donor to the T-47 program, offering refitted cockpit modules, control surfaces and armor plate to the snowspeeder.
Re: Can they?
Posted: 2005-11-15 11:26pm
by Knife
KhyronTheBackstabber wrote:Knife wrote:
4. a snow speeder
Feel free to substitute any others in. thanks!
I don't think they were armored at all, so......
Actually, they are armored.
Star wars Databank wrote:
The venerable Y-wing fighter became a prime donor to the T-47 program, offering refitted cockpit modules, control surfaces and armor plate to the snowspeeder.
*shrug* Ok. Still, the thing also had 'exposed' parts and vents/grills leading to other parts. So......still lightly armored.
Posted: 2005-11-15 11:53pm
by FSTargetDrone
Kurgan wrote:
Or how about Leia firing at the Slave I in ESB? Again, just in frustration? What if she'd downed the ship.. wouldn't that be curtains for Han?
The ESB rebel troops appear to be firing their rifles at the oncoming walkers (AT-ST's and AT-AT's) additionally.
Wasn't that Chewie firing on
Slave 1, also? He had just as much reason to be firing in rage.
Posted: 2005-11-16 07:53am
by Kurgan
True enough. I couldn't quite remember if anyone besides Leia was firing, but quite possible even without rewatching the scene.
Also, Dooku does slash his own ship with his saber in the fight with Yoda, IIRC.
Posted: 2005-11-16 03:30pm
by The Original Nex
Also, Dooku does slash his own ship with his saber in the fight with Yoda, IIRC.
He grazes the boarding ramp and does no noticible damage.
Posted: 2005-11-16 07:52pm
by Kurgan
No noticable damage? That droid sued the old codger for everything he had for the finish! The sad thing was, it was a company car...
Dooku was being tracked by some serious lawyers. If he hadn't died, they would have brought down the leader of the CIS for sure.