StarDestroyer.Net BBS

Where's the best place to find one - and I mean one that fits with current canon as well as our best knowledge of SW?

I recall that someone made an awesome one a while ago, but I forget who.

And, is the Incredible Locations guide worth the 65 AU I'd be paying?

I wouldn't recommend the Nav-Computer map as it's contradicting official sources, such as the location of Tatooine and Geonosis which were explicitly shown in AOTC to be located in one of the spiral arms (as well as contradicting official maps such as the ones found in the Insider and Complete Locations and the Unknown Regions seems to be taking up a too far large chunk of the galaxy).

EDIT: Take a look in this thread

I recommend the Complete Locations book.

One of the main gripes about the Nav-Computer map is that large chunk of area labeled "Unknown Regions". I believe there's no way a civilization that can reach all the way from the Kathol Sector to the Corporate Sector can miss a quarter of the galaxy in the quadrant 90 degrees perpendicular to the Kathol-Corporate Sector line. (The webmaster is only copying the layout in the WOTC book and the novels.)

That said, you can still use the bulk of the systems in the Nav-Computer by disregarding the stylized galactic outline it has, cutting away the Unknown Regions and closing the gap. Then if you turn the map 180 degrees you'll find that most of the system positions are about the same (an example to one of these exceptions is Malastare which is much closer to the Core in the Nav-Computer map than it is in the ITW map).

So with a little modification you can still use the Nav-Computer map to determine the positions of the other systems that is not on the ITW map.

EDIT: My example is nullified cause I just noticed that the ITW map's outermost dotted line denotes Mid-Rim Territories, not Outer Rim. So Malastare is about the the same place it is on Nav-Computer.

I second the recommendation for the map in Complete Locations, despite the fact that it has an error wherin Kashyyyk is shown in two different places.

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:I second the recommendation for the map in Complete Locations, despite the fact that it has an error wherin Kashyyyk is shown in two different places.

Yeah... the "real" Kashyyyk is above Donovia, right?

Theres just to much going on in those maps. And being on diffrent links really makes it harder. Another Gripe i have about that map puts Sacorria in another system then Corellia. Some one has to tell that guy that Sacorria is in the Corelian System

Tychu wrote:Theres just to much going on in those maps. And being on diffrent links really makes it harder. Another Gripe i have about that map puts Sacorria in another system then Corellia. Some one has to tell that guy that Sacorria is in the Corelian System

If I recall correctly the only planets in the Corellian system are Correlia, Drall, Selonia and Talus and Tralus. Secorria is part of the Correlian sphere of influence but not in the actuall system.

I'm a big fan of the new galactic starmap found in the New Essential Chronology. While it is not as complete as Nav Computer's map, it is a remade version of the old Insider Galaxy map, with a new background and unique models for all the planets (approximately 100). It includes the most important systems relevant to the SW universe, and doesn't clutter all the planets together. It also has the Unkown Regions as an area above and away from the main galactic disk, while the main regions are still not denoted by concentric circles like in the Complete Locations book. I prefer the detail found in the NEC map over the somewhat simplified galactic map in Complete Locations, which is rife with errors, such as the double Kashyyyk and the misplacement of Yavin in the Mid Rim.

Xess wrote:

Tychu wrote:Theres just to much going on in those maps. And being on diffrent links really makes it harder. Another Gripe i have about that map puts Sacorria in another system then Corellia. Some one has to tell that guy that Sacorria is in the Corelian System

If I recall correctly the only planets in the Corellian system are Correlia, Drall, Selonia and Talus and Tralus. Secorria is part of the Correlian sphere of influence but not in the actuall system.

yeah well some one has to tell me that Sacoria is diffrent then Selonia
yeah i got those two planets mixed up i concede the point

Somewhat related question:

So what is the latest (official) rationalization for the "Unknown Regions"?

Was this just a chunk of data erased from the archive star charts some prior to or during the Empire's establishement?

I remember hearing discussions on here that perhaps they were just "empty sectors" with nothing of value, really dangerous territory inhabited by the Chiss that nobody dare venture into for fear of getting their asses beat, or else a futuristic "Sargasso Sea" wherein hyperdrive "spacelanes" wouldn't work or something like that.

It would probably help if I owned some of these guide books, but I sort of gave up on getting one because of data being revised with the prequels.

Edit: I vaguely recall Saxton talking about this, but I just wondered if there'd been anything more recent in the official materials to tie it up.

Kurgan wrote:Somewhat related question:

So what is the latest (official) rationalization for the "Unknown Regions"?

Was this just a chunk of data erased from the archive star charts some prior to or during the Empire's establishement?

I remember hearing discussions on here that perhaps they were just "empty sectors" with nothing of value, really dangerous territory inhabited by the Chiss that nobody dare venture into for fear of getting their asses beat, or else a futuristic "Sargasso Sea" wherein hyperdrive "spacelanes" wouldn't work or something like that.

It would probably help if I owned some of these guide books, but I sort of gave up on getting one because of data being revised with the prequels.

Edit: I vaguely recall Saxton talking about this, but I just wondered if there'd been anything more recent in the official materials to tie it up.

My personal favorite rationilization is that the Unknown Regions encompass the stars in the galactic halo. They're few and far between so it would take longer to get to them and not make them worth attention by the Coreward powers.

This would also cover events such as those in Survivor's Quest where it takes place in a globular cluster that is in the galactic halo. This would also cover the satelite dwarf galaxies such as the Rishi Maze.

Old Plympto wrote:One of the main gripes about the Nav-Computer map is that large chunk of area labeled "Unknown Regions". I believe there's no way a civilization that can reach all the way from the Kathol Sector to the Corporate Sector can miss a quarter of the galaxy in the quadrant 90 degrees perpendicular to the Kathol-Corporate Sector line. (The webmaster is only copying the layout in the WOTC book and the novels.)

That said, you can still use the bulk of the systems in the Nav-Computer by disregarding the stylized galactic outline it has, cutting away the Unknown Regions and closing the gap. Then if you turn the map 180 degrees you'll find that most of the system positions are about the same (an example to one of these exceptions is Malastare which is much closer to the Core in the Nav-Computer map than it is in the ITW map).

So with a little modification you can still use the Nav-Computer map to determine the positions of the other systems that is not on the ITW map.

EDIT: My example is nullified cause I just noticed that the ITW map's outermost dotted line denotes Mid-Rim Territories, not Outer Rim. So Malastare is about the the same place it is on Nav-Computer.

The diagonal view is retarded. Someone needs to do a top-down view and take into account astrophysical concerns, like that superb ST map project awhile ago.