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What are the strengths and weaknesses of all the known Star destroyer designs? (no 'SSD' types et al)

1. Venator SD:
Strengths: Carries lots of starfighters, good HTLs, dedicated warship, and can land on a planet.
Weaknesses: Weak hull due to all the holes for docking bays and those big docking ports.
2. Victory I SD:
Strengths: Lots of missiles, can enter the atmosphere, good armament, dedicated warship, and good multi-role capability.
Weaknesses: Slow and depends on its missiles too much.
3. Victory II SD:
Strengths: Dedicated warship, good multi-role capability, and good armament.
Weaknesses: Slow.
4. Imperator SD:
Strengths: Jack-of-all-trades, heavy armament, heavy end of destroyer range.
Weaknesses: Master-of-none, expensive for a destroyer, somewhat inefficient, and can't enter an atmosphere easily.
5. Tector SD:
Strengths: Better protected than ISD, specialized for ship-to-ship combat, and few weak points.
Weaknesses: Few fighters or troops.
6. Dominator SD:
Strengths: Grav-well generators and ISD hull.
Weaknesses: Less power available for weapons and shields, fewer weapons, and requires support when faced by other destroyers.
7. Rejuvenator SD:
Strengths: Grav-well generators hidden inside hull and ISD hull.
Weaknesses: Less power available for weapons.
8. Republic SD:
Strengths: Cheaper and quicker to build than ISD, fewer crew than ISD, and good multi-role capability. Same number of fighters as ISD.
Weaknesses: Slightly weaker than ISD, 1/3 endurance of ISD, 1/3 number of troops as ISD.
9. Nebula/Defender SD:
Strengths: Slightly stronger than ISD and specialized for ship-to-ship combat.
Weaknesses: Only 6 months endurance, not many troops, and one squadron fewer fighters than ISD.
10. Endurance Star Carrier:
Strengths: Lots of fighters, decent command facilities, and decent armament for a carrier.
Weaknesses: Not designed for ship-to-ship combat and weak spots due to docking bays.

In addition to the above, we should probably go into the various known or possibly ISD subtypes, as well as the Allegience "SSD", which is just a big destroyer rather than a dreadnaught.

Why is there a carrier on that list?

Shouldn't the Acclamator be up there?

That being a troopship, I would think the Acclamator would need to be excluded, unless we count her as a Star Frigate.

Imperial Acclamators in Empire at War are designated 'frigates'. My guess is they're of the Mk. II variant.

montypython wrote:What are the strengths and weaknesses of all the known Star destroyer designs? (no 'SSD' types et al)

Define SSD please, Executor Class or bigger? Allegiance? the Shockwave Class?

Lord Pounder wrote:

montypython wrote:What are the strengths and weaknesses of all the known Star destroyer designs? (no 'SSD' types et al)

Define SSD please, Executor Class or bigger? Allegiance? the Shockwave Class?

SSD generally meaning Executor, Sovereign or Eclipse type vessels.

SSD is generally any ship larger than the mile long ISD.

Can't a Venator enter an atmosphere as well? In fact, I rather plainly remember seeing Venators landed on a planet's surface a few times...

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Can't a Venator enter an atmosphere as well? In fact, I rather plainly remember seeing Venators landed on a planet's surface a few times...

There was a Venator seen on the ground in the background in one of the establishing shots of Karchiro on Kashyyyk in ROTS.

Not to mention the one taking off from Coruscant with Obi-Wan aboard.

Are there any official pictures of a Tector SD? I'd love to see one.

Captain tycho wrote:Are there any official pictures of a Tector SD? I'd love to see one.

This might fit the bill

Crossroads Inc. wrote:

Captain tycho wrote:Are there any official pictures of a Tector SD? I'd love to see one.

This might fit the bill

A bit too many fighters for the role in question, me thinks.

Alan Bolte wrote: Why is there a carrier on that list?

I put the Endurance up there because it shares the same hull as the Nebula/Defender SD, and the Venator which is pretty much a carrier is up there too.

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Can't a Venator enter an atmosphere as well? In fact, I rather plainly remember seeing Venators landed on a planet's surface a few times...

NRS Guardian wrote:1. Venator SD:
Strengths: Carries lots of starfighters, good HTLs, dedicated warship, and can land on a planet.
Weaknesses: Weak hull due to all the holes for docking bays and those big docking ports.

Edit: emphasis mine.

Captain tycho wrote:Are there any official pictures of a Tector SD? I'd love to see one.

Here's a good picture of the Tector. http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/dvd/zs ... yless4.jpg
And here is where it is described. http://www.theforce.net/swtc/dagger.html#destroyer5

Here's a good picture of the Tector. http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/dvd/zs ... yless4.jpg
And here is where it is described. http://www.theforce.net/swtc/dagger.html#destroyer5

[McEwok (Arkady Hodge)]That's an "objectivist lie" and you know it. The picture is obviously meant to be a ventral hull refitted to act as a dorsal ISD hull. Even though I don't have any proof or official quotes to support my theory.[/McEwok (Arkady Hodge)]
:P

11. Allegiance SD:
Strengths: Bigger, faster, more heavily armed version of Tector, specialized for ship-to-ship combat, and few weak points.
Weaknesses: Few if any fighters, requires escort and support, designed for heavy fleet engagements, and no planetary assault capability except for BDZ.
12. Providence SD (Invisible Hand):
Strengths: Good fighter complement, lots of torpedoes, capable of BDZs, good command facilities.
Weaknesses: Large broadside hanger bay weak point, too dependent on missile armament, and droid crewed.
13. Recusant destroyer:
Strengths: Raider and support ship, powerful armament, fast, cheap, and easy to mass produce.
Weaknesses: Raider and support ship, not dedicated warship, droid crewed, skeletal or structurally weak, small reactor for a destroyer, and dependent on numerical superiority.
14. Harrow SD:
Strengths: Essentially a modernized KDY designed VSDII, dedicated warship, and good multi-role ship.
Weaknesses: Smaller destroyer design.

I love how the only support for that idea is that the other ships in view are 'upright'.

Allegiance SD

The Allegiance ships are SSDs, I'm afraid.

I've always thought they where a size between the two, I mean, there 'only' about twice the size of a standard ISD. Whats the size classifacation for a Star Dreadnaught (since its silly calling them SSD)

I've always thought they where a size between the two, I mean, there 'only' about twice the size of a standard ISD. Whats the size classifacation for a Star Dreadnaught (since its silly calling them SSD)

Thanks to the ICS, ITW and CLOSW factbooks, we have more terms to thow around other than SD and SSD:

Allegiance ships would probably the extreme lower limit of SSDs (thus being Imperial Star Cruisers), while the Executor ships would constitute the extreme upper limit (being Star Dreadnoughts, i.e heavily armed Star Battleships)

For more info, see the Ship Classification article on SW Wiki (the one under lock-down). :P

VT-16 wrote:

I've always thought they where a size between the two, I mean, there 'only' about twice the size of a standard ISD. Whats the size classifacation for a Star Dreadnaught (since its silly calling them SSD)

Thanks to the ICS, ITW and CLOSW factbooks, we have more terms to thow around other than SD and SSD:

Allegiance ships would probably the extreme lower limit of SSDs (thus being Imperial Star Cruisers), while the Executor ships would constitute the extreme upper limit (being Star Dreadnoughts, i.e heavily armed Star Battleships)

For more info, see the Ship Classification article on SW Wiki (the one under lock-down).

Are you sure swtc says it is a Star Destroyer. I guess Saxton decided to draw the line between cruiser and destroyer after the Allegiance. Though of course since he has not put it in a book its still debatable were the line really is.

The ITW:OT said:

"Super Star Destroyer" -- a term that covers many warship classes bigger than a Star Destroyer, from Star Cruisers to ultimate Star Dreadnaughts like Executor.

The Allegiance is referred to as an SSD in Dark Empire.

Since its class constitute the smallest SSDs seen so far, I'd say they fall into the Star Cruiser category.