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Opinion on SW comics
Posted: 2006-01-19 01:33pm
by Lazarus
I'm just wondering, not just whether people like the SW comics, but whether their completely literal acceptance as canon is justified. Obviously I'm not saying that it's wrong for them to be included in the storyline, but certain aspects could do with being taken with a pinch of salt. For example, the god-knows-how-many 'types' of star destroyers seen in the Dark Empire series. These have only ever been seen here, even including the Allegiance/Gauntlet class. This is because the artists thought 'Ok, we need some imperial ships drawing here, *sketches random daggerhead shape*, done!' They weren't creating new classes, they were just drawing!
Also, I know there are sometimes minimalist or madly skewed ideas in the novels, but these tend to be far more common in the comics. For example, R2-D2, a simple mechanic droid, takes command of a 12 mile long Imperial flagship, and kamikazes it into the Galaxy Gun, which shockingly fires a round into Byss, magicly solving a problem.
AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO FINDS THIS BEYOND COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY RIDICULOUS! ITS A MECHANIC ROBOT, NOT A SUPERSLICER/SHIP PILOT!
Storyline wise, I think that yes, they should be included, as they depict major events in galactic history BUT I do not think that they should be taken completely literally. What do you think?
Posted: 2006-01-19 01:40pm
by Doctor Doom
For example, R2-D2, a simple mechanic droid, takes command of a 12 mile long Imperial flagship, and kamikazes it into the Galaxy Gun, which shockingly fires a round into Byss, magicly solving a problem.
Remember R2-D2 had the help of Luke Skywalker, who at this time was Palpatine's right-hand man, and Palpatine himself was letting R2-D2 intervene because he was too arrogant to believe he could be stopped.
Posted: 2006-01-19 01:56pm
by Lord Revan
Neither the X-Wing or the Jedi Starfighters (both types) have on-board nav computers and have to rely on the Astromech (like the R2-series) and even larger ships can get into situations were a droid must be used for navigation instead of on-board systems (like voicelocking of the navcomputer of the Ebon Hawk) and if Droid can control a ship at hyperspace it's not big leap that it can do the same in "real" space (aka sublight).
but my point is that R2-series is lot more complex then a simple mechanic and R2-D2 has had extensive modifications both by the Naboo security force and by Anakin Skywalker
Posted: 2006-01-19 02:24pm
by nightmare
...and the literal acceptance of various new ships in the DE series isn't without foundation; they are clearly new ship designs. Many DE ships are actually completely new variations on known ships, as you could see on Robert Brown's old pages over Corellian ships. Would you perhaps say that WDs aren't new ships? Thought so. There's plenty of reasons why the Allegiance and others are accepted as new, size and never before seen superstructure for one.
That said, I don't think there's always justification to make completely new ship classes on what appears to be variants on standard ships. But this is really just a matter of taste since there's no rulebook that says "this defines a new ship class", or "this is not a new ship".
Posted: 2006-01-19 04:49pm
by FTeik
I think, that the destruction of Byss and the EclipseII in Empire's End sucks, too, but what we see is what we get. The ship was probabely pulled out of the shipyard in a hurry without taking care of computer-security (and probabely also very highly automated).
Re: Opinion on SW comics
Posted: 2006-01-21 12:06am
by Tychu
Lazarus wrote:I'm just wondering, not just whether people like the SW comics, but whether their completely literal acceptance as canon is justified. Obviously I'm not saying that it's wrong for them to be included in the storyline, but certain aspects could do with being taken with a pinch of salt. For example, the god-knows-how-many 'types' of star destroyers seen in the Dark Empire series. These have only ever been seen here, even including the Allegiance/Gauntlet class. This is because the artists thought 'Ok, we need some imperial ships drawing here, *sketches random daggerhead shape*, done!' They weren't creating new classes, they were just drawing!
Also, I know there are sometimes minimalist or madly skewed ideas in the novels, but these tend to be far more common in the comics. For example, R2-D2, a simple mechanic droid, takes command of a 12 mile long Imperial flagship, and kamikazes it into the Galaxy Gun, which shockingly fires a round into Byss, magicly solving a problem.
AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO FINDS THIS BEYOND COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY RIDICULOUS! ITS A MECHANIC ROBOT, NOT A SUPERSLICER/SHIP PILOT!
Storyline wise, I think that yes, they should be included, as they depict major events in galactic history BUT I do not think that they should be taken completely literally. What do you think?
well seeing that Lucas Licensing made most of the clone wars apear in the comics im pretty sure that Lucas thinks of the comics as a really high level of cannon and any Star Wars fan should collect all of the clone wars era comics to get the Clone Wars
Posted: 2006-01-21 09:07am
by Illuminatus Primus
Look, a newb can't use search or understand SOD. Color me surprised.