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What makes the color of a lightsaber?

Posted: 2006-02-03 12:49pm
by Jedi Guardian
The crystal or the wire setting? I just don't know like how the Jedi make Green, Blue, Orange, Purple, or Yellow. I just need some help what makes the color, luck? :?:

Posted: 2006-02-03 12:50pm
by 2000AD
According to I, Jedi it's the crystal(s).

Posted: 2006-02-03 01:16pm
by Manus Celer Dei
KOTOR also says it's the crystals, even if the games are low in the canon.

Posted: 2006-02-03 01:21pm
by spongyblue
Just about everything I've seen says the crystal. There is a comic which shows a young Mace Windu helping out a rock-like people in trouble and them giving him a crystal from their own bodies that happen to be purple, which he used when he made his saber.

Posted: 2006-02-03 01:56pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
What "wire setting"?

Posted: 2006-02-03 02:11pm
by Elheru Aran
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:What "wire setting"?
Frequency? Harmonics? Oscilliation? Spectral vibes? The wavelengths of the spectrum? :roll:

Seriously, just about *everything* says it's the crystal...

Posted: 2006-02-03 02:12pm
by Jedi Guardian
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:What "wire setting"?
Read the origonal Trilogy guide, it has the inside of a Lightsaber and there are certain wire settings. I thought that if it were put together differently maybe it would come out a different color. That's why i'm asking :roll:

Posted: 2006-02-03 03:55pm
by Jedi Guardian
Elheru Aran wrote:Seriously, just about *everything* says it's the crystal...
Yes, which is why I wonder, why are the crystals in the guide clear and not clored? But yes I have seen things that implie that the crystals are colored. Ex. TCW cartoon, build your own lightsaber,google or yahoo images that show what a crystal would look like. I may never be completly convinst.

Posted: 2006-02-03 03:56pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
What the hell is "the origonal Trilogy guide"?

Concerning this crap about crystals and colours, consider that a prism is just a transparant piece of glass, yet it splits visible light into a rainbow. Crystals don't have to be coloured to produce colours.

Posted: 2006-02-03 04:05pm
by Connor MacLeod
Midi-cholorians :P

Posted: 2006-02-03 04:05pm
by Jedi Guardian
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:What the hell is "the origonal Trilogy guide"?
It tells everything about the origonal trilogy and I don't think i'm saying the title right. I think it's

http://cn.dk.com/nf/Book/BookDisplay/0, ... 14,00.html

This is the guide I was talking about. Sorry this is the only link I could find. It's the "Origonal Visual Dictionary".

Posted: 2006-02-03 04:35pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
So it's just the Original Trilogy Visual Dictionary.

Good Lord, what a waste of oxygen you are...

Posted: 2006-02-03 05:18pm
by Jedi Guardian
Ok whatever! So it's just the guide and you don't waist oxygen typing! :banghead: The point is all crystals in the lightsabers are clear and they are the same type, primary and secondary if i'm not mistaking. The only real difference that I can think of is that there are 3 types of crystal. Ilum, of course, and there are two very rare types that I can not think of at the moment. Yet all clear having no color and being put in the exact same way.

Posted: 2006-02-03 05:24pm
by Qwerty 42
Jedi Guardian wrote:Ok whatever! So it's just the guide and you don't waist oxygen typing! :banghead:
I believe Spanky was referring to body functions that do require oxygen, like breathing, or for those more interesting among us, photosynthesis.

Posted: 2006-02-03 05:52pm
by Jedi Guardian
First photosynthesis requires carbondioxide not oxygen. Second photosynthesis is a stage plants go through, check it out. http://www.emc.maricopa.edu/faculty/far ... ookPS.html.
I know you mean something about "those more interesting among us" but can't think about what you mean, forget it i'm just going to get flamed again. I promised myself I wouldn't get off subject "murmering". So I have ruled out crystals unless someone can convince me other wise I still think it's either luck or wiring.

Posted: 2006-02-03 06:52pm
by Noble Ire
Jedi Guardian wrote:First photosynthesis requires carbondioxide not oxygen. Second photosynthesis is a stage plants go through, check it out. http://www.emc.maricopa.edu/faculty/far ... ookPS.html.
I know you mean something about "those more interesting among us" but can't think about what you mean, forget it i'm just going to get flamed again. I promised myself I wouldn't get off subject "murmering". So I have ruled out crystals unless someone can convince me other wise I still think it's either luck or wiring.
If numerous canon statements (and the Lightsaber construction process in KOTOR) aren't good enough for you, then there's no point in trying to hammer it into your head. You can't simply ignore something because you think its wrong.

Posted: 2006-02-03 07:20pm
by Master of Ossus
Lightsabers talks about it being the crystal.

Posted: 2006-02-03 07:34pm
by Surlethe
Jedi Guardian wrote:The point is all crystals in the lightsabers are clear and they are the same type, primary and secondary if i'm not mistaking. The only real difference that I can think of is that there are 3 types of crystal. Ilum, of course, and there are two very rare types that I can not think of at the moment. Yet all clear having no color and being put in the exact same way.
Let me get this straight: you've made up your mind -- based on your middle school-level knowledge of crystals, the unsupported notion that a crystal must have color in order to produce colors in a lightsabre, and the presumption lightsabre crystals are fundamentally similar to real life crystals -- that the crystal, despite numerous statements to the contrary, does not cause a lightsabre's color. Is that correct?

the post-production guys make it, duh!!! =)

Posted: 2006-02-03 07:46pm
by Kurgan
After watching the sequel to "Pink Five" and "The Sith Apprentice" I'm convinced that there's just a color adjust knob on the side. A few good taps on the side of the handle should produce the same effect. ;)

Posted: 2006-02-03 08:10pm
by loomer
Only one kind of crystal. Yeah, okay, I'm going to go with the actual canon over your idiotic statements here. EU canon has coloured crystals. Game canon has a very nice system of coloured crystals and different focusing crystals. Crystal as a system do not contradict anything higher up, thus they are considered canon and legitimate.

Posted: 2006-02-03 08:12pm
by Batman
loomer wrote:Only one kind of crystal. Yeah, okay, I'm going to go with the actual canon over your idiotic statements here. EU canon has coloured crystals. Game canon has a very nice system of coloured crystals and different focusing crystals. Crystal as a system do not contradict anything higher up, thus they are considered canon and legitimate.
I definitely like your attitude. In case that hasn't been expressed elsewhere already, welcome to sd.net.

Posted: 2006-02-04 12:48pm
by Jedi Guardian
Surlethe wrote: Let me get this straight: you've made up your mind -- based on your middle school-level knowledge of crystals, the unsupported notion that a crystal must have color in order to produce colors in a lightsabre, and the presumption lightsabre crystals are fundamentally similar to real life crystals -- that the crystal, despite numerous statements to the contrary, does not cause a lightsabre's color. Is that correct?
No I don't know if it's the color of the crystal or not. I'm not saying that the crystal needs color to create color in a lightsaber. It could be like a prism your shine a light through it and it comes out a certain color. It could be the way the crystal is positioned maybe. I just don't know.

Posted: 2006-02-04 12:57pm
by Master of Ossus
Jedi Guardian wrote:No I don't know if it's the color of the crystal or not. I'm not saying that the crystal needs color to create color in a lightsaber. It could be like a prism your shine a light through it and it comes out a certain color. It could be the way the crystal is positioned maybe. I just don't know.
Then why did you rule out the crystal in the first place?

What would you accept as evidence that the crystal is the source of the color?

Posted: 2006-02-04 01:06pm
by Surlethe
Jedi Guardian wrote:
Surlethe wrote: Let me get this straight: you've made up your mind -- based on your middle school-level knowledge of crystals, the unsupported notion that a crystal must have color in order to produce colors in a lightsabre, and the presumption lightsabre crystals are fundamentally similar to real life crystals -- that the crystal, despite numerous statements to the contrary, does not cause a lightsabre's color. Is that correct?
No I don't know if it's the color of the crystal or not. I'm not saying that the crystal needs color to create color in a lightsaber. It could be like a prism your shine a light through it and it comes out a certain color. It could be the way the crystal is positioned maybe. I just don't know.
Then why the hell did you rule out crystals based on color? Let me quote you: "But yes I have seen things that implie that the crystals are colored. Ex. TCW cartoon, build your own lightsaber,google or yahoo images that show what a crystal would look like. I may never be completly convinst." ... "The point is all crystals in the lightsabers are clear and they are the same type, primary and secondary if i'm not mistaking. ... Yet all clear having no color and being put in the exact same way." If you're not ruling out crystals based on color, then what do those mean?

Posted: 2006-02-05 12:01am
by Jedi Guardian
Because I don't think it is! There is a difference between ruling it out and saying that the color is not the answer! :wanker: