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How well do Imperial shields do near a star, pretty simple question.

Quite well, as far as I know only Athega has caused any problems to the Imperials and even it didn't cause any serious damage.

Athega damaged comms and sensors - the parts that would have to stick out past the shields to work. And even then it was quick repair work. The sensor bits appear to be FTL sensors based off the fact we know they are used and we know shields stop them. Conventional might require too large a reciever for use or something.

They do quite nivcely against them. As far as we know, only visual length light gets through shields; UV and higher are blocked because the are damaging (and UV serves for lidar, which is noticable abscent in SW implying it can't be used for some reason) and infared appears to be blocked as well (hence why passive sensors can't be used to see them, the ships own shields block them)

Ender wrote:Athega damaged comms and sensors - the parts that would have to stick out past the shields to work. And even then it was quick repair work. The sensor bits appear to be FTL sensors based off the fact we know they are used and we know shields stop them. Conventional might require too large a reciever for use or something.

They do quite nivcely against them. As far as we know, only visual length light gets through shields; UV and higher are blocked because the are damaging (and UV serves for lidar, which is noticable abscent in SW implying it can't be used for some reason) and infared appears to be blocked as well (hence why passive sensors can't be used to see them, the ships own shields block them)

thanks for your detailed answer
could you elaborate a little however
how far were they from the star and for how long

and what is Athega? is that a specific star somewhere? How big is it, what class of star? etc

thanks a lot guys!

Lukedanieljames wrote:

Ender wrote:Athega damaged comms and sensors - the parts that would have to stick out past the shields to work. And even then it was quick repair work. The sensor bits appear to be FTL sensors based off the fact we know they are used and we know shields stop them. Conventional might require too large a reciever for use or something.

They do quite nivcely against them. As far as we know, only visual length light gets through shields; UV and higher are blocked because the are damaging (and UV serves for lidar, which is noticable abscent in SW implying it can't be used for some reason) and infared appears to be blocked as well (hence why passive sensors can't be used to see them, the ships own shields block them)

thanks for your detailed answer
could you elaborate a little however
how far were they from the star and for how long

and what is Athega? is that a specific star somewhere? How big is it, what class of star? etc

thanks a lot guys!

Distance, star class, and size are unknown. It was a couple of minutes though.

Athega was apparently exceptional as in the Marvel Star Wars comic Admiral Giel has three Star Destroyers in the fuckin' corona of a star to hide them; later on, Princess Leia and the Rebel fleet did the same thing. They were close enough, in fact, that they had to depart prematurely because of the threat of a solar flare oblierating their entire fleet.

Elheru Aran wrote:Athega was apparently exceptional as in the Marvel Star Wars comic Admiral Giel has three Star Destroyers in the fuckin' corona of a star to hide them; later on, Princess Leia and the Rebel fleet did the same thing. They were close enough, in fact, that they had to depart prematurely because of the threat of a solar flare oblierating their entire fleet.

I wonder if this is contradicted anywhere in canons, comics are hardly the greatest place,

i also wonder how much energy a solar flare has

Elheru Aran wrote:Athega was apparently exceptional as in the Marvel Star Wars comic Admiral Giel has three Star Destroyers in the fuckin' corona of a star to hide them; later on, Princess Leia and the Rebel fleet did the same thing. They were close enough, in fact, that they had to depart prematurely because of the threat of a solar flare oblierating their entire fleet.

Being inside a star's corona isn't all that impressive. A ISD sized vessel would receive 6.7TW if the star was like our sun. Even if the star's surface temperature was 100,000K the ships would still recieve 135Mt/s.
As for flares, the biggest have a power output of 10^25W however they are thousands of km across. An ISD sized vessel would receive no more than several megatons.
And the Trekkies complain that EU wanks out Star Wars.

Kane Starkiller wrote:

Elheru Aran wrote:Athega was apparently exceptional as in the Marvel Star Wars comic Admiral Giel has three Star Destroyers in the fuckin' corona of a star to hide them; later on, Princess Leia and the Rebel fleet did the same thing. They were close enough, in fact, that they had to depart prematurely because of the threat of a solar flare oblierating their entire fleet.

Being inside a star's corona isn't all that impressive. A ISD sized vessel would receive 6.7TW if the star was like our sun. Even if the star's surface temperature was 100,000K the ships would still recieve 135Mt/s.
As for flares, the biggest have a power output of 10^25W however they are thousands of km across. An ISD sized vessel would receive no more than several megatons.
And the Trekkies complain that EU wanks out Star Wars.

I know. I'm just pointing out that for a SD to have received damage at Athega, there must be unusual circumstances at work there; perhaps a different type of star or more damaging radiation, as from the canon example I gave, ISD's got pretty damn close to a star without too much damage, while in the Thrawn trilogy the SD wasn't anywhere near Athega-- it was arriving at Nkllon to collect mole miners. Nkllon is close to its sun, but it's nowhere near being in the corona.

. Nkllon is close to its sun, but it's nowhere near being in the corona.

It could be explained as s imple unwillingness to subject a ship to a constant barrage of energy rays (with possible health implications), as well as possible long term damage to the ship due to having it's shield constantly drained by Mega tons or multiple Giga tons (

An ISD sized vessel would receive no more than several megatons.

) of force.
SD shields might not block all the radiation released by close proximity to the star (Very doubtful, but arguably possible when considering the various forms of EM based "rays"/energy released by a star), although this is just a guess.

Even if the star's surface temperature was 100,000K the ships would still recieve 135Mt/s.

Even inside the Corona or near the layer beyond the Corona?
That amount of energy is still nothing to sneeze at in the long term, how long were the ships in the corona before the threat of a flare?
Still, I may just be minimalistic regarding the heat dissipation and sustained "regeneration" rate of an SD's shields

I'm pretty sure this has been either tackled on the main site orin the SWTC, and it was decided that Athega was an unusual star, as in many other examples such as those given above, shields protect ships when they are far closer to a star. How it was unusual, who knows, there's no way to tell.

Lukedanieljames wrote:

Elheru Aran wrote:Athega was apparently exceptional as in the Marvel Star Wars comic Admiral Giel has three Star Destroyers in the fuckin' corona of a star to hide them; later on, Princess Leia and the Rebel fleet did the same thing. They were close enough, in fact, that they had to depart prematurely because of the threat of a solar flare oblierating their entire fleet.

I wonder if this is contradicted anywhere in canons, comics are hardly the greatest place,

Comics are on the same level as the novels, IIRC.

Maybe the consideration of the solar flare was not energy alone, but the ionic component of the flare. We see how nicely one good blast of the terrestrial ion gun worked on Hoth.

Being disabled in a stars corona would be nasty.