Should "Unmasked Vader" Be Replaced in ROTJ?

PSW: discuss Star Wars without "versus" arguments.

Moderator: Vympel

User avatar
Lord Poe
Sith Apprentice
Posts: 6988
Joined: 2002-07-14 03:15am
Location: Callyfornia
Contact:

Should "Unmasked Vader" Be Replaced in ROTJ?

Post by Lord Poe »

Should Hayden Christensen in old age makeup replace Sebastian Shaw as the "unmasked Vader" at the end of ROTJ? Wouldn't this make the ending much more poignant?
Image

"Brian, if I parked a supertanker in Central Park, painted it neon orange, and set it on fire, it would be less obvious than your stupidity." --RedImperator
Enforcer Talen
Warlock
Posts: 10285
Joined: 2002-07-05 02:28am
Location: Boston
Contact:

Post by Enforcer Talen »

he's cool the way he is. he's so corrupted, you dont recognize him!

and,I dont want to buy yet another special edition.
Image
This day is Fantastic!
Myers Briggs: ENTJ
Political Compass: -3/-6
DOOMer WoW
"I really hate it when the guy you were pegging as Mr. Worst Case starts saying, "Oh, I was wrong, it's going to be much worse." " - Adrian Laguna
Kelly Antilles
Sith Acolyte
Posts: 6417
Joined: 2002-09-12 10:36am

Re: Should "Unmasked Vader" Be Replaced in ROTJ?

Post by Kelly Antilles »

Lord Poe wrote:Should Hayden Christensen in old age makeup replace Sebastian Shaw as the "unmasked Vader" at the end of ROTJ? Wouldn't this make the ending much more poignant?
NO
User avatar
Spanky The Dolphin
Mammy Two-Shoes
Posts: 30776
Joined: 2002-07-05 05:45pm
Location: Reykjavík, Iceland (not really)

Post by Spanky The Dolphin »

NO, EVIL!!!!
Image
I believe in a sign of Zeta.

[BOTM|WG|JL|Mecha Maniacs|Pax Cybertronia|Veteran of the Psychic Wars|Eva Expert]

"And besides, who cares if a monster destroys Australia?"
User avatar
Grand Admiral Thrawn
Ruthless Imperial Tyrant
Posts: 5755
Joined: 2002-07-03 06:11pm
Location: Canada

Post by Grand Admiral Thrawn »

FUCK NO!
"You know, I was God once."
"Yes, I saw. You were doing well, until everyone died."
Bender and God, Futurama
User avatar
FaxModem1
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 7700
Joined: 2002-10-30 06:40pm
Location: In a dark reflection of a better world

Post by FaxModem1 »

No, it should stay the way it is, and not be changed again.
User avatar
Shinova
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 10193
Joined: 2002-10-03 08:53pm
Location: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Post by Shinova »

As it is now, my favorite "version" of the first trilogy is the one with all the original content plus the THX and digital mastering. No changes, better quality.

Point is: no more changes.
What's her bust size!?

It's over NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAND!!!!!!!!!
User avatar
Captain Cyran
Psycho Mini-lop
Posts: 7037
Joined: 2002-07-05 11:00pm
Location: College... w00t?

Post by Captain Cyran »

They touch that scene and I start breaking fingers...and stabbing many many people.
Justice League, Super-Villain Carnage "Carnage Rules!" Cult of the Kitten Mew... The Black Mage with The Knife SD.Net Chronicler of the Past Bun Bun is my hero. The Official Verilonitis Vaccinator
Kelly Antilles
Sith Acolyte
Posts: 6417
Joined: 2002-09-12 10:36am

Post by Kelly Antilles »

Captain_Cyran wrote:They touch that scene and I start breaking fingers...and stabbing many many people.
YOU GO!

Although, if they touch the OT again, someone should be shot, drawn, quartered, etc.
User avatar
Soontir C'boath
SG-14: Fuck the Medic!
Posts: 6853
Joined: 2002-07-06 12:15am
Location: Queens, NYC I DON'T FUCKING CARE IF MANHATTEN IS CONSIDERED NYC!! I'M IN IT ASSHOLE!!!
Contact:

Post by Soontir C'boath »

Hayden Christian...as old Vader?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Cyaround,
Jason
I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season."
User avatar
Admiral Drason
Jedi Knight
Posts: 768
Joined: 2002-09-04 05:43pm
Location: In my bomb shelter

Post by Admiral Drason »

No No No Noooooooooooo! Keep it the way it is.
A truly wise man never plays leapfrog with a unicorn
So Say We All
Night Stalkers Don't Quit
HAB member
RIP Pegasus. You died like you lived, killing toasters
User avatar
Captain Kruger
Padawan Learner
Posts: 467
Joined: 2002-07-07 12:55am
Location: REALITY: Las Vegas FANTASY: riding the Beast, guarding the Bucket's ass

Post by Captain Kruger »

I've been hearing GL is going to make a bunch of changes to the OT anyway before its DVD release in 2006, such as adding Qui-Gon's spirit to the other three in the last scene of Ep 6. Another rumor was a scene in Ep 4 on Alderaan featuring Jimmy Smits as Bail Organa, just before the DS dusts them.
Take life by the balls!

The Universal Constants: death, taxes, and Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones sucking ass.

Image
User avatar
Raptor 597
Sith Devotee
Posts: 3338
Joined: 2002-08-01 03:54pm
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana

Post by Raptor 597 »

George Lucas fucks with the Orginial Trilogy or lets them kill Pellaeon I'll kill him...
Formerly the artist known as Captain Lennox

"To myself I am only a child playing on the beach, while vast oceans of truth lie undiscovered before me." - Sir Isaac Newton
User avatar
Anarchist Bunny
Foul, Cruel, and Bad-Tempered Rodent
Posts: 5458
Joined: 2002-07-12 02:08am
Contact:

Post by Anarchist Bunny »

NO!

Although I think that Anikin in Episode III should get his legs cut off below the knee to account for this hieght difference between the movies. The robotic legs wouldn't be perfect making him shorter/taller.
//This Line Blank as of 7/15/07\\
Ornithology Subdirector: SD.net Dept. of Biological Sciences
Wiilite
Image
User avatar
Captain Kruger
Padawan Learner
Posts: 467
Joined: 2002-07-07 12:55am
Location: REALITY: Las Vegas FANTASY: riding the Beast, guarding the Bucket's ass

Post by Captain Kruger »

Granted, these are just rumors. But Lucas seems to want to constantly fuck with something that was already just fine. The Greedo shootout was all the evidence I needed. :evil: :roll:
Take life by the balls!

The Universal Constants: death, taxes, and Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones sucking ass.

Image
User avatar
Typhonis 1
Rabid Monkey Scientist
Posts: 5791
Joined: 2002-07-06 12:07am
Location: deep within a secret cloning lab hidden in the brotherhood of the monkey thread

Post by Typhonis 1 »

Well we do know that the lavca kills Anakins sex drive
Brotherhood of the Bear Monkey Clonemaster , Anti Care Bears League,
Bureaucrat and BOFH of the HAB,
Skunk Works director of the Mecha Maniacs,
Black Mage,

I AM BACK! let the SCIENCE commence!
User avatar
Icehawk
Jedi Council Member
Posts: 1852
Joined: 2002-07-03 06:16pm
Location: Canada

Post by Icehawk »

George Lucas can do whatever the hell he wants with HIS story. He has a certain image of what it should be like in his mind than thats the way it "should" be, its his dream world. I personally would love it if he goes back and fixes some things in the original trilogy to make it more consistant with the prequals.

Imperial March music for Ep 4

Put the Greedo death scene back the way it was

Adding Qui Gons spirit would be nice.

A couple new battle scenes at Hoth and Endor coupled with fully CG walkers for the Hot battle would be excellent.

Redo the Jabba the Hutt scene in Ep 4. The SE edition Jabba CG was TERRIBLE for that scene.
A couple of scenes with the Emperor, Alderaan, the Imperial senate, etc to Ep 4 would also be very nice.


Just so long as Lucas doesn't do something that Jeopardizes Star Wars power as a Scifi Universe, and I'll be fine and will welcome whatever change he feels needs to be done to HIS work.
"The Cosmos is expanding every second everyday, but their minds are slowly shrinking as they close their eyes and pray." - MC Hawking
"It's like a kids game. A morbid, blood-soaked Tetris game..." - Mike Rowe (Dirty Jobs)
User avatar
Jason von Evil
Sol Badguy
Posts: 8103
Joined: 2002-11-29 02:13am
Location: Writer of the fictions
Contact:

Post by Jason von Evil »

Lucas can change the trilogy as much as he wants, but he should leave Vader alone.
"It was the hooker rationing that finally drove people over the edge." - Mike on coup in Thailand.
Image
User avatar
DPDarkPrimus
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 18399
Joined: 2002-11-22 11:02pm
Location: Iowa
Contact:

Post by DPDarkPrimus »

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:FUCK NO!
Mayabird is my girlfriend
Justice League:BotM:MM:SDnet City Watch:Cybertron's Finest
"Well then, science is bullshit. "
-revprez, with yet another brilliant rebuttal.
Enforcer Talen
Warlock
Posts: 10285
Joined: 2002-07-05 02:28am
Location: Boston
Contact:

Post by Enforcer Talen »

Icehawk wrote:George Lucas can do whatever the hell he wants with HIS story. He has a certain image of what it should be like in his mind than thats the way it "should" be, its his dream world. I personally would love it if he goes back and fixes some things in the original trilogy to make it more consistant with the prequals.

Imperial March music for Ep 4

Put the Greedo death scene back the way it was

Adding Qui Gons spirit would be nice.

A couple new battle scenes at Hoth and Endor coupled with fully CG walkers for the Hot battle would be excellent.

Redo the Jabba the Hutt scene in Ep 4. The SE edition Jabba CG was TERRIBLE for that scene.
A couple of scenes with the Emperor, Alderaan, the Imperial senate, etc to Ep 4 would also be very nice.


Just so long as Lucas doesn't do something that Jeopardizes Star Wars power as a Scifi Universe, and I'll be fine and will welcome whatever change he feels needs to be done to HIS work.
I'm fine with him writing his own story, but changing it a few yrs later to make the kiddies happy is really quite disturbing.
Image
This day is Fantastic!
Myers Briggs: ENTJ
Political Compass: -3/-6
DOOMer WoW
"I really hate it when the guy you were pegging as Mr. Worst Case starts saying, "Oh, I was wrong, it's going to be much worse." " - Adrian Laguna
User avatar
Cpt_Frank
Official SD.Net Evil Warsie Asshole
Posts: 3652
Joined: 2002-07-03 03:05am
Location: the black void
Contact:

Post by Cpt_Frank »

As long as Lucas doesn't disrupt the overall continuity it's fine with me.
(until now, the only thing he's really thrown out of the continuity is the droid comics, and that's just fine with me).
Image
Supermod
Kelly Antilles
Sith Acolyte
Posts: 6417
Joined: 2002-09-12 10:36am

Post by Kelly Antilles »

Icehawk wrote:A couple new battle scenes at Hoth and Endor coupled with fully CG walkers for the Hot battle would be excellent.
Nonononono. The Battle of Hoth is fine the way it is. The music fits perfectly. The AT-ATs look fine. There is NOTHING wrong with that battle!
User avatar
Spanky The Dolphin
Mammy Two-Shoes
Posts: 30776
Joined: 2002-07-05 05:45pm
Location: Reykjavík, Iceland (not really)

Post by Spanky The Dolphin »

Why add Qui-Gon at the end of ROTJ? Luke would have no idea who he is.
Image
I believe in a sign of Zeta.

[BOTM|WG|JL|Mecha Maniacs|Pax Cybertronia|Veteran of the Psychic Wars|Eva Expert]

"And besides, who cares if a monster destroys Australia?"
User avatar
Vympel
Spetsnaz
Spetsnaz
Posts: 29312
Joined: 2002-07-19 01:08am
Location: Sydney Australia

Post by Vympel »

Kelly Antilles wrote:
Nonononono. The Battle of Hoth is fine the way it is. The music fits perfectly. The AT-ATs look fine. There is NOTHING wrong with that battle!
Well, there WAS a shot of an AT-ST coming under fire from a speeder that was ruined because the sky background moved, according to starwars.com

But really- no need to change anything Empire Strikes Back AT ALL (rabid versus warsie mode- except show the bridge of the star destroyer intact after the collision)

Return of the Jedi space battle could use some sprucing up- it's anemic.
Like Legend of Galactic Heroes? Please contribute to http://gineipaedia.com/
User avatar
Spanky The Dolphin
Mammy Two-Shoes
Posts: 30776
Joined: 2002-07-05 05:45pm
Location: Reykjavík, Iceland (not really)

Post by Spanky The Dolphin »

Also, I agree that he needs to fix the ANH SE Jabba. Preferably using the TPM Jabba, maybe a little modified.
Image
I believe in a sign of Zeta.

[BOTM|WG|JL|Mecha Maniacs|Pax Cybertronia|Veteran of the Psychic Wars|Eva Expert]

"And besides, who cares if a monster destroys Australia?"
Post Reply