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Hello, I was just wondering, does anyone have a link to the source where Chee said that the ICS was C-canon? Not the quote itself, I know it already, but where it came from.

I don't think Chee ever said anything specific about it-- it's automatically C-canon, since it's not a film.

I was talking about this:

which category (C or G) the Incredible Cross-sections, Visual Dictionary and the Inside the Worlds belongs?

Theses books are treated no differently than any other books; anything created by the author would be C-level. I would guess that 95% of the text info in those books is created by the author or is based on information created by another author other than George Lucas.

Someone I'm debating doesn't believe it's a real quote and he wants a source.

You're getting your canon classifications mixed up.

ICS is EU, because its not a film. Lucas himself could have written it, and it would still be EU.

G-canon are things stemming from GL or the movies, anything that's not, is C-canon.

The ICS include some G-canon elements (like Rothana), so it's not completely C.

I know that, what I'm asking for is a source for the quote I just mentioned. The person I'm debating thinks I just made it up.

He also says Saxton just made up all the figures in the ICS because they were never mentioned directly in the movies.

The ICS include some G-canon elements (like Rothana), so it's not completely C.

Of course, the same could be said of, say, Shadows of the Empire, due to the dream sequence in the beginning, which was a copy of the carbon-freeze scene in ESB.

What I'm looking for is the original thread or interview or website where Chee said that quote, in case I wasn't being clear.

Noble Ire wrote:

The ICS include some G-canon elements (like Rothana), so it's not completely C.

Of course, the same could be said of, say, Shadows of the Empire, due to the dream sequence in the beginning, which was a copy of the carbon-freeze scene in ESB.

In fact, that point could be made for the vast majority of the EU. They have the movie characters, after all.

OmegaGuy wrote:He also says Saxton just made up all the figures in the ICS because they were never mentioned directly in the movies.

He's right; Dr Saxton did make up all the figures in the ICS. If there were any he didn't, they were derived directly from the movies, and the ones he did make up were made up so they were consistent with the scope and scale the movies (intentionally or unintentionally) present. So the claim is correct, but the implication he wants you to take from it -- that because Dr Saxton made them up, they are automatically invalid -- is wrong.

EDIT: correctin an apparent contradiction in wording ...

So do you know where that quote originated from?

OmegaGuy wrote:So do you know where that quote originated from?

A quick google gives this thread from the SW.com boards, as well as, interestingly enough this thread from SD.net.

I thought the ICS was movie-level canon? Or has that been retracted?

I found it there, but it says it was from an earlier thread. Oh well, thanks anyway.

Elheru Aran wrote:I thought the ICS was movie-level canon? Or has that been retracted?

Y'know, there's this wonderful sticky specifically on canon just on top of this forum.

nightmare wrote:

Elheru Aran wrote:I thought the ICS was movie-level canon? Or has that been retracted?

Y'know, there's this wonderful sticky specifically on canon just on top of this forum.

Coincidentally, the second link in my post points directly to that sticky, which addresses OmegaGuy's question on the very first page.

OmegaGuy wrote:I was talking about this:

which category (C or G) the Incredible Cross-sections, Visual Dictionary and the Inside the Worlds belongs?

Theses books are treated no differently than any other books; anything created by the author would be C-level. I would guess that 95% of the text info in those books is created by the author or is based on information created by another author other than George Lucas.

Someone I'm debating doesn't believe it's a real quote and he wants a source.

I can vouch that it was a real quote, I asked the bloody question. It can be found below (The Holocron Q&A thread):

+http://forums.starwars.com/thread.jspa? ... &start=120