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What is the Fleet Strength of the Galactic Empire

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In its prime, what was the fleet strength of the Galactic Empire and what types of ships did they have? I wish to know because I am beginning to make a Trekwars fanfic, which I intend to post here, and I wish to have accurate fleet numbers and types. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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The Empire at its height had 25,000 ISDs. In addition, their fleet was divided into Sector Groups of 2,400 vessels. Each Sector Group had 24 ISDs with another 1,600 combat vessels.

I don't know the break-downs for the other vessel types but I hope this will hope.
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TrekWarsie wrote:In its prime, what was the fleet strength of the Galactic Empire and what types of ships did they have? I wish to know because I am beginning to make a Trekwars fanfic, which I intend to post here, and I wish to have accurate fleet numbers and types. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
The estimates are conflicting. According to official statements, the Imperial Starfleet consists of 25000 Star Destroyers. Now, whether these are standard ISDs or not is unknown, so there might be a number of more Allegiances, Command Ships etc floating around. Extrapolating from that, there would be on the order of tens of millions to billions of smaller vessels. Those are the low end calcs. Keep in mind that only a small part of these could be released from policing duty without the effect being noticeable.

The high end calcs, started by Thelea I believe, are based on sketchy but AFAIK logically hermetic information that points toward the Starfleet not being the only Imperial Naval force. If we go by them, the Empire's 25000 Star Destroyers are part of a separate Navy that can be released at any time as part of an invasion force.

For nearly any vs fanfic, Thelea's calcs would be overkill, especially with the Death Star involved.
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Low end is 12.5 million I believe.
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Ender wrote:Low end is 12.5 million I believe.
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I always thought the 25K thing meant that they had 25K Imperator-class Mark 1's, excluding Victory's, Mark II's, etc.
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HemlockGrey wrote:I always thought the 25K thing meant that they had 25K Imperator-class Mark 1's, excluding Victory's, Mark II's, etc.
It's ISDs of all subclasses. No other SDs like the older VSDs or the larger ASDs.
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Low end is 10 million, highend is 22 million.
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Cpt_Frank wrote:
HemlockGrey wrote:I always thought the 25K thing meant that they had 25K Imperator-class Mark 1's, excluding Victory's, Mark II's, etc.
It's ISDs of all subclasses. No other SDs like the older VSDs or the larger ASDs.
Actually I believe its mostly ISD-2's, since those were supposedly the most recent kind
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Connor MacLeod wrote:
Actually I believe its mostly ISD-2's, since those were supposedly the most recent kind
I don't know. Heir to the Empire says 25,000 Star Destroyers, period.
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Connor MacLeod wrote:
Cpt_Frank wrote:
HemlockGrey wrote:I always thought the 25K thing meant that they had 25K Imperator-class Mark 1's, excluding Victory's, Mark II's, etc.
It's ISDs of all subclasses. No other SDs like the older VSDs or the larger ASDs.
Actually I believe its mostly ISD-2's, since those were supposedly the most recent kind
Not really.Remember,while TESB introduced ISD II,ROTJ featured mostly ISD I
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I always assumed that the 25,000 number were Imp Stars and Deuces. I thought i read that the Empire had sold off most of the Vic's to the Corporate Sector?
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The CSA only bought 250 Victory-class Star Destroyers.

The words "Imperial-class" have become synonomus with "Sta Destroyer". Whenever someone in the EU talks about a Victory-class vessel they specify the class, however ISD's are almost always refered to as simply Star Destroyers.
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520 Vics according to the WEG sourcebook.
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IceHawk-151 wrote:The words "Imperial-class" have become synonomus with "Sta Destroyer". Whenever someone in the EU talks about a Victory-class vessel they specify the class, however ISD's are almost always refered to as simply Star Destroyers.
Because they are the most prevalent.
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Right, so I'd assume that when talking about Star Destroyers they mean ISD's.

520 Victories Sold? Twice the figure from the "Essential Guide....." reference, but still pretty small.
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IceHawk-151 wrote:Right, so I'd assume that when talking about Star Destroyers they mean ISD's.
Maybe, there are larger destroyers as well as smaller.
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Look at Lord Saxtons site. He shows that the Empire has many types of destroyers, big and small.
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25,000 Star Destroyers would be a ridiculously small amount to police an entire galaxy with over 12 million inhabited star systems.
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Durandal wrote:25,000 Star Destroyers would be a ridiculously small amount to police an entire galaxy with over 12 million inhabited star systems.
Even that is low, Han was at that time probably just reffering to the possible systems in use by the Empire as we have other quotes amount to nearly 50 million worlds, and Saxton's ICS mentions billions of worlds used soley for mining.
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Durandal wrote:25,000 Star Destroyers would be a ridiculously small amount to police an entire galaxy with over 12 million inhabited star systems.
Oh another note, in that case we might try a rationalization, like say it reffers to the common name ISD instead of all destroyers, there could be separate numbers for Victorys and such.

Even so, official fleet numbers cements the figure at 10-22 million ships for the Empire as of TESB/ROTJ era.

The majority of ships I guess will be smaller ones such as dreadnaughts, frigates and gunships, I seem to recall some odd 200metre gunships in the Black Fleet Crisis, such vessels might constitute a large fraction of the ships aviable.

Ofcourse possible future material might simply override such things, or cast doubt on them, as MW said there seems to be new incentive in LFL to fix the size & scope problems of the EU, the ICS being one indicator of this trend.
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