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Powerful Non-Jedi and Non-Sith Force Users
Posted: 2006-06-14 11:33pm
by Guardsman Bass
Outside of the Sith and Jedi, how many powerful force users do we know of?
The Depa Billaba thread made me think about this, because in Shatterpoint, there is a very powerful 'wild' force-user on Harun Kal called Kurt Vastor.
Posted: 2006-06-14 11:54pm
by Publius
Assuming you wish to exclude the Darth Tyranus's Dark Acolytes and the Galactic Emperor's Inquisitors and Dark Jedi, there are the Prophets of the Dark Side, the Sorcerers of Tund, the Jensaarai, and the Nightsisters of Dathomir. Of course, as it happens, the Prophets, Sorcerers, and Jensaarai are all quasi-Sith cults, and the Nightsisters are derived from a schismatic Jedi sect; Supreme Prophet Kadann and Nightsister chief Gethzerion have been compared to the Galactic Emperor in terms of power in the dark side, and the last Sorcerer, Rokur Gepta, was said to have been a good friend of his. The Dark Empire Sourcebook mentions the Krath, the Heresiarchs, and the Jarvashqiine shamans as being among the cultures the Galactic Emperor studied, and there are also the devotees of the Tyia.
Posted: 2006-06-15 11:23am
by Lonestar
Think Publius got them all. Were the users of the "White Current" in there?
Posted: 2006-06-15 11:26am
by JediMaster415
There is the Fallanassi and the Theran Listeners of Nam Chorios.
Posted: 2006-06-15 11:26am
by Jaevric
And the An'ting (sp? I don't have my books) monks from the Hand of Thrawn series--we're not completely certain how 'powerful' they are in the Force, but we know they have a completely different understanding of it than the Jedi or Sith.
Posted: 2006-06-16 01:53am
by CaptainChewbacca
The "White Current" is a group of female force-users, I think.
Posted: 2006-06-16 06:12am
by Publius
CaptainChewbacca wrote:The "White Current" is a group of female force-users, I think.
It's a more 'female-oriented' religion practiced by the Fallanassi. Interestingly enough, they're the only people other than Sith Lords known to be able to create Doppelgängers. Also, they're pretentious in the extreme and wont to lecture Jedi about morality and propriety.
Posted: 2006-06-16 03:57pm
by DesertFly
Publius wrote:CaptainChewbacca wrote:The "White Current" is a group of female force-users, I think.
It's a more 'female-oriented' religion practiced by the Fallanassi. Interestingly enough, they're the only people other than Sith Lords known to be able to create Doppelgängers. Also, they're pretentious in the extreme and wont to lecture Jedi about morality and propriety.
As well as lead Jedi Grand Masters around by their nose on wild goose chases like little lost puppies. I
hated those books so much. Luke did not act like he normally does. Maybe he had the flue.
Re: Powerful Non-Jedi and Non-Sith Force Users
Posted: 2006-06-17 12:11pm
by Srynerson
Guardsman Bass wrote:Outside of the Sith and Jedi, how many powerful force users do we know of?
Well, do you only want 100% confirmed Force-users? Cody SunChilde certainly wielded "powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men," many of which were consistent with being a Force-user, but no one called him as such.
Posted: 2006-06-17 12:19pm
by Old Plympto
Jaevric wrote:And the An'ting (sp? I don't have my books) monks from the Hand of Thrawn series--we're not completely certain how 'powerful' they are in the Force, but we know they have a completely different understanding of it than the Jedi or Sith.
The Aing-Tii monks aye. Then, there are the Kel Dor Baran Do sages, the Matukai physical adepts and Zeishon Sha telekinetic adepts, all featured in the
Hero's Guide.
Posted: 2006-06-17 04:23pm
by FTeik
DesertFly wrote:Publius wrote:CaptainChewbacca wrote:The "White Current" is a group of female force-users, I think.
It's a more 'female-oriented' religion practiced by the Fallanassi. Interestingly enough, they're the only people other than Sith Lords known to be able to create Doppelgängers. Also, they're pretentious in the extreme and wont to lecture Jedi about morality and propriety.
As well as lead Jedi Grand Masters around by their nose on wild goose chases like little lost puppies. I
hated those books so much. Luke did not act like he normally does. Maybe he had the flue.
A full-grown midlife-Crisis. Lasts with interruptions from JAT till LotF.
Seriously, while i don't like the Akanah-part of BFC, it fits the pattern. Luke was ready to follow Obi-Wan to learn more about his father and now he followed Akanah to learn more about his mother. It was also a nice idea to confront him with a different view on the Force (much like Vergere), what forced him to broaden his horizon.
Posted: 2006-06-18 04:55pm
by Battlehymn Republic
Slight tangent- I've already made a thread about whether or not non-Jedi/Sith/Force-users use lightsabers, and pretty much it's never done since the weapon is a symbol and dangerous and difficult for non-Force-users to use.
However, are there any besides Grievous who use it?
Posted: 2006-06-18 04:58pm
by JediMaster415
Battlehymn Republic wrote:Slight tangent- I've already made a thread about whether or not non-Jedi/Sith/Force-users use lightsabers, and pretty much it's never done since the weapon is a symbol and dangerous and difficult for non-Force-users to use.
However, are there any besides Grievous who use it?
Han Solo uses a lightsaber briefly in ESB and The Unseen Queen. And Tarfang in the latter.
Posted: 2006-06-18 05:22pm
by Publius
Battlehymn Republic wrote:However, are there any besides Grievous who use it?
In the novelization
Star Wars: From the Adventures of Luke Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi mentions that lightsabers "at one time" were "widely used," and "still are, in certain galactic quarters." The so-called Lords of the Expanse (noble families in the Tapani Sector) from the roleplaying game often use lightsabers for duels and suchlike, despite not being sensitive to the Force.
Posted: 2006-06-18 07:10pm
by CaptainChewbacca
Han also used a lightsaber to cut the coolant lines on the counterfeit Falcon during an attempt to abduct Leia on Bpfassh. I don't recall which book it was specifically, but it was in the HTTE trilogy.
Posted: 2006-06-18 07:25pm
by JediMaster415
CaptainChewbacca wrote:Han also used a lightsaber to cut the coolant lines on the counterfeit Falcon during an attempt to abduct Leia on Bpfassh. I don't recall which book it was specifically, but it was in the HTTE trilogy.
I think that was Dark Force Rising.
Posted: 2006-06-19 02:34am
by FTeik
No, that was in "Heir to the Empire".
Baron Orman Tagge also wields a lightsaber despite being no Force-user.