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Was the term 'Sith' coined in teh EU?

Posted: 2002-12-31 08:58pm
by Darth Garden Gnome
I don't seem to recall the word ever being used in the OT. I could be wrong though.

Anyways, if that is the case, then you can't really complain about GL never using EU stuff in his movies, because I do know that the term Sith is used in TPM and AOTC.

Posted: 2002-12-31 09:08pm
by Ender
It was in the ANH novel.

Posted: 2002-12-31 09:32pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
I think "Sith" has existed since the original drafts for Star Wars, between 1975-1977.

Posted: 2002-12-31 09:51pm
by God Emperor
It was, originaly they were going to be a Knight Hood, them finaly they settled on just one person.

Re: Was the term 'Sith' coined in teh EU?

Posted: 2002-12-31 11:16pm
by Galvatron
Darth Garden Gnome wrote:I don't seem to recall the word ever being used in the OT. I could be wrong though.

Anyways, if that is the case, then you can't really complain about GL never using EU stuff in his movies, because I do know that the term Sith is used in TPM and AOTC.
The OT never used the term, but the EU books did.

Posted: 2003-01-01 03:52am
by Cal Wright
It was never in the movies, however it was all over the place in the three novelisations.

Posted: 2003-01-01 04:06am
by Darth Garden Gnome
Most interesting, why GL would put them in novels and not books. Anybody have an idea why he might do that?

Posted: 2003-01-01 08:42am
by Peregrin Toker
The word "Sith" WAS in the original draft, where the Jedi Bendu battled the Black Knights of the Sith Order.

In a later draft, the Black Knights of Sith were the Legions of Lettow, but they finally personified the Sith as a single character, Darth Vader, the Dark Lord of the Sith.

(I hate saying it, but I prefer the term "Black Knight of the Sith" over "Dark Lord of the Sith")

Posted: 2003-01-01 09:42am
by Cpt_Frank
Sith was in the early drafts and the novels indeed, although the background of the word originates from the EU.

Posted: 2003-01-01 10:54am
by Crazy_Vasey
Vader was always referred to as the Dark Lord of the Sith in scripts and stuff but it just never came up in the films AFAIK.

Posted: 2003-01-01 11:11am
by Tsyroc
I had a Darth Vader T-shirt from the same year SW came out and it referred to him as Dark Lord of the Sith. Which sounded cool but was a bit confusing to me since most of that was never explained in the movie or the comic book adaptation.

Posted: 2003-01-01 01:33pm
by Cal Wright
I don't recall any dialogue from novelisations where someone says he's the Dark Lord of the Sith or any Sith mentionings. It's in the description the author gives him. Something along the lines of, 'fear gripped the crew as the Dark Lord of the Sith descended the ramp' or some shit like that.

Posted: 2003-01-01 01:45pm
by Master of Ossus
"Sith" is something that has been used since early drafts of SW, and is in the canonical scripts, where it is used to describe Darth Vader.

Posted: 2003-01-01 06:35pm
by ViciousMink
Obligatory StarWarZ site reference:

http://www.starwarz.com/starkiller/

The Jedi Bendu Script Site. Interesting stuff there.

It was really only in the EU that the Sith were defined to be an opposint Force tradition to the Jedi. I don't think it's even been discussed in the official books or the movies if the Sith were a breakaway tradition from the Jedi or not. YMMV.

Posted: 2003-01-01 10:13pm
by Anarchist Bunny
Tsyroc wrote:I had a Darth Vader T-shirt from the same year SW came out and it referred to him as Dark Lord of the Sith. Which sounded cool but was a bit confusing to me since most of that was never explained in the movie or the comic book adaptation.
At the price old SW shit goes for these days, don't you wish you still had that?

My mom once found this old Melenium Falcon, I'd say from 1984-87. I didn't want it that bad. Probly could of made some money off that.

Posted: 2003-01-01 10:19pm
by beyond hope
ViciousMink wrote:Obligatory StarWarZ site reference:

http://www.starwarz.com/starkiller/

The Jedi Bendu Script Site. Interesting stuff there.

It was really only in the EU that the Sith were defined to be an opposint Force tradition to the Jedi. I don't think it's even been discussed in the official books or the movies if the Sith were a breakaway tradition from the Jedi or not. YMMV.
They're breakaways from the Jedi. It's in The Phantom Menace novelization.

Posted: 2003-01-02 10:09am
by Peregrin Toker
beyond hope wrote: They're breakaways from the Jedi. It's in The Phantom Menace novelization.
Yup. And they only adopted the name Sith after they fled to the hitherto-unknown planet Korriban and encountered the native people, the Massassi Sith, who used the Force although they never knew of the Jedi.

Posted: 2003-01-02 03:05pm
by Lord Pounder
anarchistbunny wrote:
Tsyroc wrote:I had a Darth Vader T-shirt from the same year SW came out and it referred to him as Dark Lord of the Sith. Which sounded cool but was a bit confusing to me since most of that was never explained in the movie or the comic book adaptation.
At the price old SW shit goes for these days, don't you wish you still had that?

My mom once found this old Melenium Falcon, I'd say from 1984-87. I didn't want it that bad. Probly could of made some money off that.
I still have most of my old Star Wars toys. I have a complete "exploding" speeder bike, an ATAT ( that has a broken leg coz i used it as horse when i was younger, and near all the Star Fighters i could get, X-Wings and B-Wings etc.