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Darh Maul vs Darth Vader

Posted: 2006-08-15 03:31am
by Lord Poe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzZPfw5Uaic

This is what happens when Wayne has too much time on his hands...

Posted: 2006-08-15 03:34am
by Ace Pace
Cool flick, but black against black on a black background was hard to see. :D

Posted: 2006-08-15 03:48am
by Lord Poe
Ace Pace wrote:Cool flick, but black against black on a black background was hard to see. :D
Yeah, I know. But I was booooored! :)

Posted: 2006-08-15 03:49am
by DesertFly
Where's the double-blade for Darth Maul?

Posted: 2006-08-15 03:58am
by Lord Poe
DesertFly wrote:Where's the double-blade for Darth Maul?
Hey pal... Maul doesn't whip out the second blade when its one-on-one. Witness his first fight with Qui-Gon.

Besides, its only available in multiplayer in Jedi Outcast, and its just a woodsman's overhead chop!

Posted: 2006-08-15 04:23am
by DesertFly
Oh, I didn't realize you were using Outcast. Academy has double-bladed saber support built in.

Also, Vader would totally WTFPWN Maul everytime.

Posted: 2006-08-15 06:48am
by Lord Poe
DesertFly wrote:Oh, I didn't realize you were using Outcast. Academy has double-bladed saber support built in.
JA is on its way to me as we speak!
Also, Vader would totally WTFPWN Maul everytime.
Not so sure about that. A neophyte like Luke managed to score a couple points off of Vader in TESB.

Posted: 2006-08-15 08:27am
by Vympel
Not so sure about that. A neophyte like Luke managed to score a couple points off of Vader in TESB.
Yeah, but Vader wasn't playing for keeps. Also Luke, while a neophyte, is more powerful (or as powerful, it matters little) than his father was.

Posted: 2006-08-15 11:14am
by Darth Fanboy
Plus, it turns out that the Vader vs. Maul short story is supposedly one of the few SW Tales that is canon. Vader > Maul.

Posted: 2006-08-15 12:07pm
by Noble Ire
Darth Fanboy wrote:Plus, it turns out that the Vader vs. Maul short story is supposedly one of the few SW Tales that is canon. Vader > Maul.
Of course, that thing wasn't actually Maul, just some sort of Dark Force puppet. Nevertheless, I don't doubt that Vader was more powerful, at least in his prime. In terms of stamina, Force power, and intelligence, Darth Vader is superior; I would imagine that more than makes up for his inability to jump around like a marionette.

Posted: 2006-08-15 01:50pm
by Lord Poe
Noble Ire wrote:Of course, that thing wasn't actually Maul, just some sort of Dark Force puppet. Nevertheless, I don't doubt that Vader was more powerful, at least in his prime. In terms of stamina, Force power, and intelligence, Darth Vader is superior; I would imagine that more than makes up for his inability to jump around like a marionette.
I really shouldn't make anymore of these...but I was laughing my ass off the other day when I had Old Ben and Vader battling each other! I set it in the Death Star hangar, and I was thinking this is how the ANH battle should have looked! If Count Dooku can flit around like a teenager, then Obi-Wan should do it, too!

Posted: 2006-08-15 02:11pm
by Darth Fanboy
I never bought into the whole "Cripple vs. Old Man" sentiment that has sort of picked up around the fight in ANH either. To me it really cheapens the moment, the final conflict between two old friends turned enemies.

Posted: 2006-08-15 08:06pm
by Vympel
Speaking of Obi-Wan vs Ben, if you own a console you might seriously consider getting the Episode III game. It should be dirt cheap now, and it has an awesome duelling function- including an Darth Vader and old Obi-Wan Kenobi on the Death Star level. That fighting looks awesome.

Posted: 2006-08-15 09:30pm
by DesertFly
Vympel wrote:That fighting looks awesome.

Yes, including the fact that they can still both jump around like crickets, and the way the ol' "mechanical arms" Vader can shoot out enough lightning to power Manhattan.


But yes, it is cool.

Posted: 2006-08-16 01:55am
by Havok
What game is that?

Posted: 2006-08-16 02:44am
by DesertFly
havokeff wrote:What game is that?
In the video? Star Wars: (Dark Forces 3) Jedi Knight (II): Jedi Outcast

The other one we're talking about is Star Wars: (Dark Forces 4) Jedi Knight (III): Jedi Academy

And the last one that's been mentioned has been Star Wars Episode III The Video Game.

Posted: 2006-08-16 03:26am
by Adam Reynolds
how did you get these characters in the game?

Posted: 2006-08-16 05:03am
by Vympel
Adamskywalker007 wrote:how did you get these characters in the game?
Skins, dude, skins.

Posted: 2006-08-16 02:05pm
by Darth Fanboy
Vympel wrote:Speaking of Obi-Wan vs Ben
Is this like ANH Ben Kenobi vs PT Obi Wan or something?

Posted: 2006-08-16 02:34pm
by DesertFly
Darth Fanboy wrote:
Vympel wrote:Speaking of Obi-Wan vs Ben
Is this like ANH Ben Kenobi vs PT Obi Wan or something?
In the Episode III video game that's possible. There's a multiplayer mode that's somewhat like a fighting game, and two of the characters you can select are the young and old Obi-Wan. Same thing with Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader.

Posted: 2006-08-16 08:21pm
by Tsyroc
Maul was kicking Vader's ass in Poe's film and then all of a sudden Vader just starts taking Maul's head clean off a couple of times in a row. :lol:

Posted: 2006-08-16 08:34pm
by Lord Poe
Tsyroc wrote:Maul was kicking Vader's ass in Poe's film and then all of a sudden Vader just starts taking Maul's head clean off a couple of times in a row. :lol:
I loved the one where he force chokes him, then throws his saber at him and cuts his head off!

I'm actually thinking of pulling this video; it looks like shit. It would be MUCH better if they were both NPCs, like in Luke vs Vader. Then Maul would be jumping around all over the place. And, I'm trying a new compression method that doesn't make the video look like it was filmed underwater.

If I could find a way to make Luke into the Maul skin, that would be great. Or, just re-film it in Jedi Academy.

I'm still thinking about putting together an Old Ben vs. Vader! It looks great!

Posted: 2006-08-16 08:38pm
by Vympel
Darth Fanboy wrote:
Is this like ANH Ben Kenobi vs PT Obi Wan or something?
It was a typo, I meant Ben vs Vader on the Death Star, but yes, you can do Ben vs Obi-Wan.

Anakin vs Darth Vader is awesome too, because the developers really put the effort in- they have Vader and Anakin say shit to each other as if they really were fighting their past/future.

Posted: 2006-08-16 11:52pm
by LordShaithis
Vympel wrote:Anakin vs Darth Vader is awesome too, because the developers really put the effort in- they have Vader and Anakin say shit to each other as if they really were fighting their past/future.
Whoa, like what??

Posted: 2006-08-17 12:12am
by Elheru Aran
Noble Ire wrote:
Darth Fanboy wrote:Plus, it turns out that the Vader vs. Maul short story is supposedly one of the few SW Tales that is canon. Vader > Maul.
Of course, that thing wasn't actually Maul, just some sort of Dark Force puppet. Nevertheless, I don't doubt that Vader was more powerful, at least in his prime. In terms of stamina, Force power, and intelligence, Darth Vader is superior; I would imagine that more than makes up for his inability to jump around like a marionette.
And he had to kill the Maul clone (not a 'puppet', it was a clone IIRC) by sticking his lightsaber through his own fucking chest bare seconds before he was decapitated... :P

It was a pretty close match from what I remember, really. Both of 'em got digs in, but Vader basically only got his victory through a desperation tactic that he survived mainly due to his toughness and bodysuit.