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Who designed/discovered that quantum crystal crap the suncrusher is made of. And why would it be stronger than neutronium? Why not make stardestroyers out of it?

The suncrusher can survive the a nova or supernova as I understand. Though, would a nova or supernova destroy all the planets in it's system, including the gas giants, similar to how the death star did? I'm wondering if it could take a DS superlaser hit.

Shrykull wrote:Who designed/discovered that quantum crystal crap the suncrusher is made of.

A scientist named Qwi Xux who also designed a lot of the Death Star, at least before the Prequals.

And why would it be stronger than neutronium? Why not make stardestroyers out of it?

By its description it really IS neutronium like, at least in the sense of general density, layers of degenerate matter that add up to only milimeter thickness, but somehow magicly without the mass that comes along with it.

This was really before Neutronium was said to be part of military grade armor. And said neutronium is only present in absoloutly minuite quantities, veins to disipate energy along large areas of the hull from impact points IIRC.

The suncrusher can survive the a nova or supernova as I understand. Though, would a nova or supernova destroy all the planets in it's system, including the gas giants, similar to how the death star did?

The Death Star never fired at any Gas Giants, so it did nothing of the sort.

I'm wondering if it could take a DS superlaser hit.

The Sun Crusher DID survive a bare glancing hit from the Death Star prototypes superlaser, as in only a tiny fraction of the total energy. If it had been hit dead on, it would have died easily, but its protection was great enough to survive that tiny fraction (which is still considerable).

The Death Star never fired at any Gas Giants, so it did nothing of the sort.

I meant, would a nova or supernova destroy all the planets and objects it's solar system, the same way the death star did destroy planets. I mean the small ones would be blown to bits by the nova or supernova and the gas giants (as a result of the nova would be dissipated/blown away)

Suncrusher armour doesn't protect against ion weapons, which also makes the vessel vulnerable to other EMP type weapons.

They probably DID start using some version of it later on. Commercial versions of the armor was available in some form or quality, and it was considered an improvement, and Yuuzahn Vong Killer droids used something a bit better than QC armor (that laniminium stuff.) later on, so I don't see why ships didn't in some form.

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Suncrusher armour doesn't protect against ion weapons, which also makes the vessel vulnerable to other EMP type weapons.

Why would it be less effective against a charged particles, exactly?

Shrykull wrote:

The Death Star never fired at any Gas Giants, so it did nothing of the sort.

I meant, would a nova or supernova destroy all the planets and objects it's solar system, the same way the death star did destroy planets. I mean the small ones would be blown to bits by the nova or supernova and the gas giants (as a result of the nova would be dissipated/blown away)

A nova or supernova is an omnidirectional release of energy, like a bomb. Only a fraction of that energy is actually going to STRIKE the sun crusher, due to its smaller profile (and range plays a role there too.) so comparing a supernova to a beam weapon is rather misleading.

Connor MacLeod wrote:

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Suncrusher armour doesn't protect against ion weapons, which also makes the vessel vulnerable to other EMP type weapons.

Why would it be less effective against a charged particles, exactly?

Because it has external weapons mounts that provide avenues for the charged particles to take out internal equipment. After all, directions and energy have to flow out to them from the computers controlled from the inside, and there's nothing specifically stated as preventing ion cannons from working in this fashion.

The Sun Crusher's main asset against ion cannons would be its slim profile and great speed. It would not be easy to score a hit, especially with a weapon like an ion cannon.

The laminium produced by Tendrando industries is said to be better than quantum crystal, and yet it does not seem to rival the known damage thresholds that the Imperial quantum armor did.

Connor MacLeod wrote:

Shrykull wrote:

The Death Star never fired at any Gas Giants, so it did nothing of the sort.

I meant, would a nova or supernova destroy all the planets and objects it's solar system, the same way the death star did destroy planets. I mean the small ones would be blown to bits by the nova or supernova and the gas giants (as a result of the nova would be dissipated/blown away)

A nova or supernova is an omnidirectional release of energy, like a bomb. Only a fraction of that energy is actually going to STRIKE the sun crusher, due to its smaller profile (and range plays a role there too.) so comparing a supernova to a beam weapon is rather misleading.

Wouldn't it depend of how close it is to nova/supernova, doesn't it have to get very close to do whatever it does? (guess it works like an Andromeda Nova Bomb, reverses the gravity)

I'm not sure exactly what the supernova would do to it's solar system (like I've been asking, does or doesn't a supernova/nova destroy everything it's solar system?) but I know the supernova's X-rays, although it might take decades for them to reach other star systems would destroy all life on thier planets.

As far as I'm aware, observed supernovæ have not occurred in systems that are known to have planetary bodies. As a result, there's no way of truly knowing what would happen.

A case to point would be the time when Luke Skywalker flew a quantum armoured vessel acquired from the Shadow Academy and it sustained some damage to its circuitry when it flew through an ion storm.

According to current theory, when a Supernova occurs, the matter around the star collapses onto the iron core, but then rebounds off the iron core in a powerful shockwave effect. If I recall, the heavier elements are produced around at this power when there's lots of energy to fuse the iron and what not elements. It is this shockwave of matter that fans out and actually starts up a nebula.

This matter shockwave might be enough to incinerate a planet's surface or shatter it. However, how the Sun Crusher can withstand such a powerful outburst, to say nothing of the huge EMP pulse that would surely emitted is beyond me. As it is, there are already huge intense X-ray sources right now in the galaxy that have managed to raise the alarm bells in some of our satellites orbiting this world, to say nothing of a close range bombardment of such intense x-rays. I'm not sure if I recall reading correctly, but it will be very bad for the Earth if a supernova takes place within a few light years away from here. There are objects that release more energy and example would be a magnetar. The object SGR 1806-20 released 1.3×10^39 J of energy in one tenth of a second, was 50,000 light-years from Earth, and yet it released so much energy it ionised our ionosphere and briefly expanded it. I won't want to be on this planet if one were to release that much energy a few lights away from us. The fact that an object that far away can have some effects here is scary enough.

Ironically, KJA did get it "somewhat" right when the stars in the Cron drift exploded and sent a shockwave coming for Ossus. I would put that down to pure luck of story telling if you ask me.

GrandAdmiralJello wrote:The Sun Crusher's main asset against ion cannons would be its slim profile and great speed. It would not be easy to score a hit, especially with a weapon like an ion cannon.

The laminium produced by Tendrando industries is said to be better than quantum crystal, and yet it does not seem to rival the known damage thresholds that the Imperial quantum armor did.

Where is that claim made? For the life of me, I can't remember it being mentioned in one of the novels. Are you sure you don't confuse it with the self-healing metals used on the SD-droids from DarkEmpire?

FTeik wrote:

GrandAdmiralJello wrote:The Sun Crusher's main asset against ion cannons would be its slim profile and great speed. It would not be easy to score a hit, especially with a weapon like an ion cannon.

The laminium produced by Tendrando industries is said to be better than quantum crystal, and yet it does not seem to rival the known damage thresholds that the Imperial quantum armor did.

Where is that claim made? For the life of me, I can't remember it being mentioned in one of the novels. Are you sure you don't confuse it with the self-healing metals used on the SD-droids from DarkEmpire?

Lando claimed it was better in Star By Star. The reasonable assumption is that he meant 'cheaper and easier to produce and work with in mass production', or that he was hyping his product for the sales pitch.

Shrykull wrote:

The Death Star never fired at any Gas Giants, so it did nothing of the sort.

I meant, would a nova or supernova destroy all the planets and objects it's solar system, the same way the death star did destroy planets. I mean the small ones would be blown to bits by the nova or supernova and the gas giants (as a result of the nova would be dissipated/blown away)

that all depends on real life physics.
A Nova or Super Nova when it explodes expands and sucks up any close planets and pretty much burns them up
If a gas Giant is close enough the Star will blow it up.

In real life we do have evidence of planets orbiting white dwarfs (the result of novas or supernovas). So it all depends on distance

consequences wrote:

Connor MacLeod wrote:

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Suncrusher armour doesn't protect against ion weapons, which also makes the vessel vulnerable to other EMP type weapons.

Why would it be less effective against a charged particles, exactly?

Because it has external weapons mounts that provide avenues for the charged particles to take out internal equipment. After all, directions and energy have to flow out to them from the computers controlled from the inside, and there's nothing specifically stated as preventing ion cannons from working in this fashion.

You mean EMP?

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:A case to point would be the time when Luke Skywalker flew a quantum armoured vessel acquired from the Shadow Academy and it sustained some damage to its circuitry when it flew through an ion storm.

Think you could be a bit more specific? There's about thirteen young Jedi Knight novels, ,and about half of them deal with the Shadow Academy stuff.

Edit: I should also point out that a supernova is going to be a MASSIVE amount of ionizing radiation as well (IE charged particles..)

Connor MacLeod wrote:

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:A case to point would be the time when Luke Skywalker flew a quantum armoured vessel acquired from the Shadow Academy and it sustained some damage to its circuitry when it flew through an ion storm.

Think you could be a bit more specific? There's about thirteen young Jedi Knight novels, ,and about half of them deal with the Shadow Academy stuff.

Edit: I should also point out that a supernova is going to be a MASSIVE amount of ionizing radiation as well (IE charged particles..)

It was the one to Kashyyk or Hapes I think. I can't recall as I don't have the books with me. There are numerous contradictions involved in, which isn't surprising given that KJA is known not to be consistent. Admittedly, a supernova is a very drastic affair, and in truth, sometimes I wonder if Kyp even had time to fly down to Carida to pick up his brother before the burst of gamma rays reached Carida. By right when a sun goes boom, a very powerful burst of gamma rays go forth before the matter shockwave follows. There should be at most only a few minutes before the gamma ray wavefront hits the planet. Hardly enough time to even run down an atmosphere.