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New OT DVD images. Case, booklet and DVD art.

Posted: 2006-09-04 03:26am
by Gandalf
Here.

I will say, I think that they look awesome.

It tickles me that the two pictures in one of the accompanying booklet are of the (arguably) two most controversial changes. :P

Posted: 2006-09-04 03:48am
by Stark
Wait, Luke's ROTJ sabre is blue now?

Posted: 2006-09-04 04:06am
by Alan Bolte
That's just a style thing. Low number of colors in any given area, you'll notice. There's no green anywhere in the image.

Posted: 2006-09-04 04:08am
by Stark
Oh. I didn't notice actually - I thought it was one of the 'changes' Gandalf mentioned. :?

Posted: 2006-09-04 04:26am
by Gandalf
Stark wrote:Oh. I didn't notice actually - I thought it was one of the 'changes' Gandalf mentioned. :?
No, the booklet has pictures of Han sitting opposite Greedo, and Anakin's ghost as portrayed by Sebastian Shaw.

Posted: 2006-09-04 05:38am
by Dooey Jo
Stark wrote:Wait, Luke's ROTJ sabre is blue now?
It is in the old trailers for RotJ...

Posted: 2006-09-04 07:14am
by Vympel
It should've been blue in the first place. The idea that it wouldn't show up well in the desert background was moronic.

Posted: 2006-09-04 07:34am
by Stofsk
Vympel wrote:It should've been blue in the first place. The idea that it wouldn't show up well in the desert background was moronic.
Not a fan of the rainbow collection of lightsabres?

Posted: 2006-09-04 08:53am
by Cao Cao
It should've been shocking pink! Damn Lucas and his uncreativity!!

Posted: 2006-09-04 02:13pm
by Darth Quorthon
Vympel wrote:It should've been blue in the first place. The idea that it wouldn't show up well in the desert background was moronic.
I agree. Doesn't look so bad to me.
Image
Edit: Click for a bigger picture

Posted: 2006-09-04 02:23pm
by Anguirus
Consider SFX technology back then. I presume that they saw how the 1983 blue lightsabre looked on Tatooine and didn't go for it, that's all.

I'm actually glad, I think the green sabre looks great in the movie.

Posted: 2006-09-04 02:50pm
by Lord Poe
I'm not going to bother wasting any more money on this shit. Mike made a few DVDs of the originals a few years back that look just fine.

This is Star Wars, and what do we get? Nothing but this shit. If they wanted to impress the hell out of me, they'd make a DVD set that rivals the "Alien" DVD boxed set. It would be filled with rare BTS photos and video, it would have commentaries with the main cast, (Are you telling me Hamill is "too busy" to do one? Even fuckin' Ford isn't doing much these days.)

Forget it. Don't buy this crap unless you lack VHS copies of the originals.

Posted: 2006-09-04 03:06pm
by Ender
Cao Cao wrote:It should've been shocking pink! Damn Lucas and his uncreativity!!
Don't worry, Traviss will retcon it for you.

Posted: 2006-09-04 03:34pm
by RogueIce
Is it just me, or does Han's hair look really funny in the ANH box illustration?

Posted: 2006-09-04 03:46pm
by JLTucker
My parents said that they will be purchasing the OT versions for my birthday. I do not see what the big deal is about Han shooting first in the enhanced editions.

Posted: 2006-09-04 07:49pm
by Aaron
JLTucker wrote:My parents said that they will be purchasing the OT versions for my birthday. I do not see what the big deal is about Han shooting first in the enhanced editions.
It solidifies his reputation as a badass. With Greedo shooting first Han is reacting in self-defense but when Han guns down Greedo in cold blood it shows us just how hard he is.

Posted: 2006-09-04 08:43pm
by Stark
Of course I saw it first as a child, but these days a primary 'good guy' gunning down a threat in cold blood would be an exceptional occurance. He didn't even TRY to negotiate: he played for time and blew the guy away. That's Sin City shit, not Jar-Jar Binks stuff.

That said, I'll never buy Star Wars again. Lucas can suck my dick, he's not getting any of my money. The last SW I bought was on VHS, and it's been - what - eight reissues since then? Pfffft.

Posted: 2006-09-04 10:25pm
by MKSheppard
Stark wrote:Wait, Luke's ROTJ sabre is blue now?
BULLLSHIIT!

What kind of wanking shit is this?

I liked the green sabre, it was a nice contrast against red; and it really did signify that luke was his own jedi now, instead of following in the footsteps of the old order.

Posted: 2006-09-04 10:27pm
by Ghost Rider
MKSheppard wrote:
Stark wrote:Wait, Luke's ROTJ sabre is blue now?
BULLLSHIIT!

What kind of wanking shit is this?

I liked the green sabre, it was a nice contrast against red; and it really did signify that luke was his own jedi now, instead of following in the footsteps of the old order.
Actually the sabre is still green, like Alan Bolte said...it was just the image had low colors, thus the color green became blue, because nothing was green in that image.

Posted: 2006-09-05 03:03am
by Stofsk
Lord Poe wrote:I'm not going to bother wasting any more money on this shit. Mike made a few DVDs of the originals a few years back that look just fine.

This is Star Wars, and what do we get? Nothing but this shit. If they wanted to impress the hell out of me, they'd make a DVD set that rivals the "Alien" DVD boxed set. It would be filled with rare BTS photos and video, it would have commentaries with the main cast, (Are you telling me Hamill is "too busy" to do one? Even fuckin' Ford isn't doing much these days.)

Forget it. Don't buy this crap unless you lack VHS copies of the originals.
What's the beef man? Besides, I actually don't have VHS copies of the originals anymore. Hell I don't even have a copy of the SE either. The only SW films I own are TPM and AOTC - both of which were presents from my brother. Maybe this year I'll get all the films at last rather than borrow his copies.

Posted: 2006-09-05 04:01am
by Kurgan
Well, the linked page is broken, but I would point out that the "artwork" poster for ROTJ (not the one of the hands holding the lightsaber, which was all blue) showed Luke with a blue lightsaber.

Posted: 2006-09-05 04:39am
by Cao Cao
Cpl Kendall wrote:
JLTucker wrote:My parents said that they will be purchasing the OT versions for my birthday. I do not see what the big deal is about Han shooting first in the enhanced editions.
It solidifies his reputation as a badass. With Greedo shooting first Han is reacting in self-defense but when Han guns down Greedo in cold blood it shows us just how hard he is.
Really it just shows that Han isn't stupid.
If some scummy bounty hunter is pointing a gun at you while saying "I'm going to kill you and drag your carcass to that fat slug for money." then it becomes a matter of survival.
Greedo shooting first makes Han look like an imbecile for waiting, and Greedo look like an incompitent for missing at that distance. :evil:

Posted: 2006-09-05 03:19pm
by Kurgan
Okay, now I see the pics.

Yeah, Luke's saber was always blue in the artwork. So apparently it wasn't changed to green in the actual film until late into the game (even the trailers showed blue). I like the green, but then if it were blue in theaters back in 1983, I'd probably be saying I liked the blue best. ;)


Also: "LEGO Star Wars II video game Xbox demo and trailer"

I don't care how "awesome" this game is, that space would have been better served with something actually from the movie, like deleted scenes, or, I dunno.. an anamorphic encode!

:P Oh well... at least it's cheaper than expected. See you again in May 2007!

Posted: 2006-09-05 04:18pm
by Mange
Stofsk wrote:
Lord Poe wrote:I'm not going to bother wasting any more money on this shit. Mike made a few DVDs of the originals a few years back that look just fine.

This is Star Wars, and what do we get? Nothing but this shit. If they wanted to impress the hell out of me, they'd make a DVD set that rivals the "Alien" DVD boxed set. It would be filled with rare BTS photos and video, it would have commentaries with the main cast, (Are you telling me Hamill is "too busy" to do one? Even fuckin' Ford isn't doing much these days.)

Forget it. Don't buy this crap unless you lack VHS copies of the originals.
What's the beef man? Besides, I actually don't have VHS copies of the originals anymore. Hell I don't even have a copy of the SE either. The only SW films I own are TPM and AOTC - both of which were presents from my brother. Maybe this year I'll get all the films at last rather than borrow his copies.
What is being offered are old LD transfers of the movies in 4x3 letterbox (they're not even anamorphic). A company like Lucasfilm which prides itself with quality doesn't give the original versions, the versions which the world originally fell in love with, the treatment they deserve. On top of this they refer to them as "bonus discs". How many people are going to buy them for the 2004 versions? I'm certainly not buying them (I'll certainly buy these for completion) for the 2004 editions for which I've already payed for on DVD and which also are flawed (lightsaber effects, color correction and soundtrack wise).

EDIT: I read a short comment on the unaltered versions of the movies made on the forum of the Swedish site DVDforum made by a reviewer. According to the reviewer who focused on TESB, the picture is unaccaptable, especially during the scenes which takes place on Hoth as the picture becomes grainy, there's also color bleeding, sometimes details such as hair becomes fuzzy. The reviewer gave the picture 3 or 4 out of 10 (I'm waiting for a full review on the site). In Swedish...: +http://www.dvdforum.nu/forum/index.asp? ... 6#m1478469

Posted: 2006-09-05 05:32pm
by JLTucker
How were the light saber effects flawed on the 2004 releases? Also, the pictures showed on the link you provided look decent.