Page 1 of 2

Non-Canon Star Destroyers

Posted: 2006-10-09 04:33pm
by Ritterin Sophia
Okay, recently on the Wizards of the Coast message board I came across a post about some Star Destroyers some kid, named Lord Lemartes, had found fanart of and thought they were canon (Don't ask, I don't know why he'd think that) and was asking stats for. Now, I've read a couple articles about Star Destroyers from here and Wookiepedia, but I never looked through them, so I quickly compiled a list of known SD's.

Now, what I'd like to know is, has anyone else heard of these or any other rediculous SD's?

Centaurian SSD
Imperial SSD- I think he may be talking about the Star Destroyer-class Star Battlecruiser.
Dreadnaught SSD- I think he assumed Star Dreadnaught is a class instead of the name for the SD's classified as battleships.
Exitus SD
Research SD- Possibly the Arc Hammer
Spector SD
Eradicator SD
Republic Liberator SD- Perhaps he confused the Liberator (Ex-Adjucator) as a new class?
Repressor SSD
Obliterator SSD
Melevolent SSD
Inquisitor SSD
Tarkin 2 Command Cruiser

Now he gave us some info on both the Tarkin 2 and Exitus, which is pure wankage, but I'll let you in on.
Lord Lemartes wrote:And as far as i can tell the EXITUS is a newer version of the TARKIN 2 class command cruiser, (i have that statted originally in weg* and converted to rcr by myself by the way), the tarkin 2 has the 2 wave grav shock bombard weapon and nanofactories that are 80% faster and more efficient than the nanofactories on the world devastators, also according to it's write up, the ship can "Give birth" to a Executor class ssd from out of it's bow.
The Exitus as far as i can find out is suppose to have something like a 12 or more barreled DEATH STAR 2 Type Super Laser.
*I believe he means that he has it statted in the WEG rules (D6 System) and is going to convert them to the Revised D20 Version, I don't think anyone at WEG is stupid enough to actually try to actually add this to canon.

Posted: 2006-10-09 06:03pm
by VT-16
I think all those names come from people like the guy behind the Imperium-class. (it can carry dozens of ISDs inside of it *fapfapfap*) :P

Posted: 2006-10-09 06:05pm
by OmegaGuy
Reminds me of the Imperium - class Ultra Star Destroyer which was obviously created with some guy with a very, very small wang.

Posted: 2006-10-09 07:08pm
by Darth Raptor
What possible impetus would the Empire have to create these ships? During the height of its reign few galactic powers could match an Imperator, let alone an Executor. And during the Remnant period the Navy was scaled back so far that even these two classes were something to be proud of.

I mean, at least the Eclipse class sported a superlaser. WTF is with all the battlecruiser/battleship/dreadnought variants? Fap fap indeed.

Posted: 2006-10-09 08:11pm
by Cykeisme
Futhermore, who would need a ship that carries ISDs, when an ISD by itself can cross the galaxy on its own, multiple times, at reasonably high speed?

Posted: 2006-10-09 08:28pm
by AK_Jedi
Cykeisme wrote:Futhermore, who would need a ship that carries ISDs, when an ISD by itself can cross the galaxy on its own, multiple times, at reasonably high speed?
Early design drawings of the death star suggested that it carried multiple ISDs inside it. But I do get your meaning.

Posted: 2006-10-09 08:35pm
by fusion
Cykeisme wrote:Futhermore, who would need a ship that carries ISDs, when an ISD by itself can cross the galaxy on its own, multiple times, at reasonably high speed?
Ask George Lucas himself when he was making the Return of the Jedi. :D

The Imperium is not that bad if it is thought of a bit scaled down DS1(obviously stripped down, sheild destroying superlaser). Eclispe's idea is not that bad if the super laser was not that powerful (one shot ship killer). I get pretty high ship numbers if I scale the modern planet fleet size to glatical size.

Posted: 2006-10-09 09:31pm
by lance
Cykeisme wrote:Futhermore, who would need a ship that carries ISDs, when an ISD by itself can cross the galaxy on its own, multiple times, at reasonably high speed?
If it can build them, then it might not be so bad. But if it carries 64 squadrons of ISD fighters a squadron of ESD bombers and 2 squadrons of Interdiction stardestroyers, then we have a problem.

Posted: 2006-10-09 10:35pm
by LordShaithis
I never thought that uberwank "ultra" Star Destroyer was really all that wanked. It was only a fraction the volume of a Death Star, after all.

Posted: 2006-10-09 11:11pm
by LaserRifleofDoom
Where's the link to it on the board? I know it was posted here,but can't be assed to find it.

Thanks.

Posted: 2006-10-09 11:19pm
by DesertFly
Here's the topic, here's the actual pic.

Posted: 2006-10-10 12:49am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
:roll: Of all the wanking ships... who in the universe will need something as big as that...

Posted: 2006-10-10 12:56am
by darthkommandant
The funny thing is that I could see "Wankatine" actually building that thing. Its also not that impressive since the DS2 was 950km in diameter and was capable of moving under its own power when completed.

Posted: 2006-10-10 01:11am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
darthkommandant wrote:The funny thing is that I could see "Wankatine" actually building that thing. Its also not that impressive since the DS2 was 950km in diameter and was capable of moving under its own power when completed.
Might as well build a ship the size of a planet.....

After all, we have had Battle Moons like the Eye of Palpatine...

Posted: 2006-10-10 01:43am
by OmegaGuy
DesertFly wrote:Here's the topic, here's the actual pic.
I'm not familiar with some of the other ships in that picture, namely the "Allegiance", "Spectre", "Eradicator", "Malevolent", and "Inquisitor" class.

Posted: 2006-10-10 02:30am
by VT-16
Early design drawings of the death star suggested that it carried multiple ISDs inside it. But I do get your meaning.
It does, actually. That's not the point, though. Wasn't it said that when you start building structures that big, you might as well make it spherical rather than dagger-shaped? Because of keeping structural integrity and all?

Posted: 2006-10-10 03:48am
by Bromma_Herman
Can I remind you that the only canon SDs are the Executor, Imperator Class, Venator and Acclamator along with the unnamed Endor SDs
(Unless I missed a Statement saying that the EU is canon, if so is the case, please disregard)

Posted: 2006-10-10 04:04am
by Ritterin Sophia
I'm sorry, what were those hand full of designs you mentioned, if you remember I said that I had compiled a list of ships classified as Star Destroyers.

Acclamator I-class Assault Ship
Acclamator II-class Assault Ship
Arc Hammer (Possibly a modified scaled-down Executor-class)
Broadside-class Cruiser kdb-1
Class II Frigate
Demolisher (Similar to the Broadside-class and may actually just be a variant)
Eclipse-class Star Dreadnaught (One of two classes of Starships that equip Superlasers, both Eclipse I and II are the personal ships of the Reborn Emperor)
Enforcer-class Picket Cruiser (Built of same frame as Immobilizer 418 Cruiser and Vindicator-class Heavy Cruiser)
Executor-class Star Dreadnaught
Galactic-class Battle Carrier (Name change to avoid the dread brought on by the name of Star Destroyer)
Gauntlet-class Star Cruiser (Scaled Up Imperator with no Hangar Bay)
Hunchbacked Super Star Destroyer (Of Unknown Class, Only seen in the Dark Empire Comics)
Imperator/Imperial I-class Star Destroyer
Imperator/Imperial II-class Star Destroyer
Interdictor Star Destroyer (Variant of Imperator I with four gravity well generators)
Mandator I-class Star Dreadnaught
Mandator II-class Star Dreadnaught
Pellaeon-class Star Destroyer
Praetor-class Star Battlcruiser
Procurator-class Star Battlecruiser
Pursuit-class Light Cruiser
Rejuvenator-class Star Destroyer
Sleek Super Star Destroyer (Of Unknown Class, Only seen in the Dark Empire Comics)
Sovereign-class Star Dreadnaught (One of two classes of starships to equip Superlasers)
Star Destroyer-class Battlecruiser (Multitude of variations)
Tector-class Star Destroyer (Variation of Imperator I with extra armor and no hangar bay)
Venator-class Star Destroyer
Vengeance (SSD of Unknown Class)
Victory I-class Star Destroyer
Victory II-class Star Destroyer
Victory II-class Frigate

Posted: 2006-10-10 04:13am
by VT-16
the unnamed Endor SDs
You mean the Tector-class and the Communications Ship? :P

Posted: 2006-10-10 04:14am
by Straha
Cykeisme wrote:Futhermore, who would need a ship that carries ISDs, when an ISD by itself can cross the galaxy on its own, multiple times, at reasonably high speed?
Well, if you were confronted by an actual military threat I could see, maybe, using bays like that to repair smaller ships on-site after a battle instead of having to scuttle/abandon them. This would beg the question though, if you've got the resources to build the "I Need Tweezers to Masturbate" Star Destroyer why the fuck would you need the smaller class ships beyond system and trade route patrols?

Posted: 2006-10-10 04:58am
by XaLEv
Cykeisme wrote:Futhermore, who would need a ship that carries ISDs, when an ISD by itself can cross the galaxy on its own, multiple times, at reasonably high speed?
The story behind the Imperium-class is that it is intended for use in invasion of other galaxies. Keep in mind that the ICSes give the Acclamator a range of 250 000 light years, and the Venator only 60 000 ly. Both speed and supplies are important, and normal ships don't have the supply capacity to travel even relatively short intergalactic distances.

Re: Non-Canon Star Destroyers

Posted: 2006-10-10 11:10am
by vakundok
General Schatten wrote:Now, what I'd like to know is, has anyone else heard of these or any other rediculous SD's?

Centaurian SSD
Imperial SSD- I think he may be talking about the Star Destroyer-class Star Battlecruiser.
Dreadnaught SSD- I think he assumed Star Dreadnaught is a class instead of the name for the SD's classified as battleships.
Exitus SD
Research SD- Possibly the Arc Hammer
Spector SD
Eradicator SD
Republic Liberator SD- Perhaps he confused the Liberator (Ex-Adjucator) as a new class?
Repressor SSD
Obliterator SSD
Melevolent SSD
Inquisitor SSD
Tarkin 2 Command Cruiser
You can find some fan fictions on Wolfsshipyard. Among them a few (or the roots of a few) of these. Even the alias or name of the creator is available. Demanding stats for these from WotC is, well, strange ...

Posted: 2006-10-10 03:55pm
by Jim Raynor
This "Ultra Star Destroyer" is horrible wank even when you consider that the Empire can build Death Stars:

From his site:
The embodiment of Palpatine's plans for extra-galactic conquest, the Imperium would have been as powerful as a Death Star, but much more mobile.
This ship is supposed to combine the power of the Death Star with the mobility of a traditional warship, in a hull that is much smaller, but still ridiculously larger than any canon dagger-shaped warships.

EDIT: dressed link

Posted: 2006-10-10 04:19pm
by VT-16
Where's the one that got a parody fanfic written about it? It was divided into two parts with a thin, Nebulon-B esque middle section and someone here wrote a fanfic about what would "realistically" happen aboard the vessel (which was also gigantic). It was fucking hilarious! Stuff like "We lost contact with the forward batteries three weeks ago. Due to turbolift breakdowns, any expeditions to the area will take months." and "We lost 17 ISDs in our formation when the ship made a sudden turn." XD

Posted: 2006-10-10 04:34pm
by Ritterin Sophia
Like I said, these ships are the stuff masturbatory fantasies are made of.