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Wankatine's Force Storms vs. Rokur Gepta's EM Torpedo

Posted: 2006-10-11 01:42pm
by OmegaGuy
Which is a more powerful force power?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Electromagnetic_torpedo

Posted: 2006-10-11 01:47pm
by Death from the Sea
well, it sounds like that from your wiki article that Lando beat that dude, so Palps would have no problem....

Posted: 2006-10-11 02:00pm
by OmegaGuy
It's not a fight between them, it's a comparison of which ability is more devastating.

Posted: 2006-10-11 03:02pm
by Murazor
OmegaGuy wrote:It's not a fight between them, it's a comparison of which ability is more devastating.
Gepta's "green death" seems to be a rather potent planet killer (NOT a planet destroyer), but to the best of my knowledge it doesn't show the interstellar range and sheer versatility of Wankatine's Force Storm.

Conclusion: Palpatine Reborn wins, hands down.

Posted: 2006-10-11 07:27pm
by Publius
Rokur Gepta's electromagnetic torpedo is one of the more impressive manifestations of the Force's destructive power, but it is not as versatile or as physically destructive as one of the Galactic Emperor's Force storms, which is known to be capable of physically dismantling an Eclipse class Star Destroyer, a heavily armored battleship. The depopulating effect of the electromagnetic torpedo is more or less like a chemical/biological/radiological weapon of mass destruction, destroying organic life. In contrast, a Force storm is an extremely energetic phenomenon that relies on brute force.

Dark Empire actually describes the Force storm as emerging from a hyperspace wormhole, and the fact that the Galactic Emperor was able to control one on Coruscant while he was on Byss conclusively proves that the storms can be controlled from interstellar distances (although it is interesting to note that only Star Wars Handbook Volume Three: Dark Empire explicitly associates the hyperspace wormholes with the Force storms, so it is possible that the wormholes and the storms are two separate phenomena which the Galactic Emperor was able to combine). Furthermore, Dark Empire also proves that the Galactic Emperor's fine control is sufficient that the same storm is able to destroy vessels (Star Wars Handbook Volume Three: Dark Empire specifically describes it as "indiscriminately destroying friend and enemy vessels alike") and to translate Luke Skywalker and R2-D2 from the surface of Coruscant into the bowels of a Lictor class dungeon ship.

The Dark Empire Sourcebook says that Force storms "violate the laws of nature," and that they "twist the space-time continuum to create vast storms of force" "capable of creating annihalitng vortices" that can "swallow whole fleets of spaceships or tear the surfaces off worlds," aptly calling it "perhaps the single most destructive Force power known." It also points out that it is extremely difficult to manifest a Force storm, and that it is extremely dangerous, as well ("often, those who fail to control the storm are themselves consumed and destroyed"). A Guide to the Star Wars Universe, Third Edition mentions that "Dark Side Adepts demonstrate limited control over the creation of these storms," but the Galactic Emperor is the only person known for certain to have been able to do so, and is also the only person known to have been able to both create and control them (he is, incidentally, also the only one known to have been able to open hyperspace wormholes). Luke Skywalker does at least know how to create Force storms, but has never been shown to actually be able to do so.

The one advantage that Sorcerer of Tund's electromagnetic torpedo may have over the Sith Lord's Force storm is reliability. Although it may be assumed that the Galactic Emperor had used storms before (enough that he was able to write of the process of manifesting them in The Book of Anger), he has only been seen to actually use them twice, and lost control of one and was destroyed by it. The Dark Empire Sourcebook is quite explicit that a mistake at any stage could be disastrous. The fact that the Galactic Emperor used them so sparingly despite their obvious utility is a strong argument in favor of the idea that they are too dangerous to be used frequently. Gepta's ability to reduce the strength of his torpedo to one hundred-quadrillionth of its full power suggests a very great deal of control over its effects.