Motoko Kusanagi vs. T-X

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Who comes out on top?

Motoko Kusanagi
3
43%
T-X
4
57%
 
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The T-X would likely be equipped with at least equivalent and probably superior sensors.
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Good question. There's no good technical info on the GiTS film available in the U.S., as far as I'm aware. In any case, the name "thermoptic" implies infrared and optical camo (that's how I see it, at least) so I imagine the T-X wouldn't have trouble detecting Kusanagi (based on your information).
Terminator brains use the same technology, but on a smaller scale. They have natural language ability (T2 An Evil Hour, Russel Blackford.) and can hack thorugh the Los Angeles 'secured' school records database in under a second. In comparison, hacking through modern encryption with modern computers, does as I am sure you know, take a very long time.
Motoko Aramaki (a more powerful version of Kusanagi) can hack into government databases (not instantaneously, however), and heavily-encrypted cyberbrains within a matter of seconds. However, the T-X is not connected to any sort of network, as you point out, so she would probably have to establish a physical link with the T-X (something the T-X is going to be less than willing to allow to happen).

Motoko could possibly win would be if she transported to another body and returned with adequate weaponry, but even then I would still favor the T-X.

BTW, Motoko is the protagonist from the Ghost in the Shell anime/manga franchise (not a wankverse).
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Durran Korr wrote: Motoko Aramaki (a more powerful version of Kusanagi) can hack into government databases (not instantaneously, however), and heavily-encrypted cyberbrains within a matter of seconds. However, the T-X is not connected to any sort of network, as you point out, so she would probably have to establish a physical link with the T-X (something the T-X is going to be less than willing to allow to happen).
Even so, the TX's processor would be read only so its mission parameters couldn't be changed. (Although its memory and auxilliary storage possibly could)

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NecronLord wrote:
Durran Korr wrote: Motoko Aramaki (a more powerful version of Kusanagi) can hack into government databases (not instantaneously, however), and heavily-encrypted cyberbrains within a matter of seconds. However, the T-X is not connected to any sort of network, as you point out, so she would probably have to establish a physical link with the T-X (something the T-X is going to be less than willing to allow to happen).
Even so, the TX's processor would be read only so its mission parameters couldn't be changed. (Although its memory and auxilliary storage possibly could)
Is that true? I admit to not having seen T3, but previous terminators could certainly be reprogrammed, given that Arnold was the good guy in T2.
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Symmetry wrote:Is that true? I admit to not having seen T3, but previous terminators could certainly be reprogrammed, given that Arnold was the good guy in T2.
They can be reprogrammed when they are on write mode. In the T2 special edition (I'll see if I can't get the script) the terminator says that terminator CPUs are set to Read Only when they are sent on missions alone. Skynet obviously had this kind of situation in mind. In order to set it to write mode the CPU must be removed and re inserted after flipping a switch.

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This is also likely why the T-850's CPU in T3 is not affected by the T-X's nanotechnological transjectors, hence it still had control of certain functions and managed not to kill John Connor.
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Terminator 2 Shooting Script (Including scenes re inserted in special edition wrote:

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JOHN
                Can you learn?  So you can be... you know.
                More human.  Not such a dork all the time.

        Terminator turns towards him.

                                TERMINATOR
                My CPU is a neural-net processor... a learning
                computer.  But Skynet presets the switch to
                "read-only" when we are sent out alone.

                                SARAH
                        (cynical)
                Doesn't want you thinking too much, huh?

                                TERMINATOR
                No.

                                JOHN
                Can we reset the switch?

                                                CUT TO:

88      E.C.U. OF AN X-ACTO KNIFE cutting into Terminator's scalp at the base
        of his skull.  His voice calmly directs Sarah as she spreads the bloody
        incision and locates the maintenance port for the CPU in the chrome
        skull beneath.

                                TERMINATOR
                Now open the port cover.

        She wipes away the blood and uses the garage-mechanic's air tools to
        unscrew the port cover.

88A     TERMINATOR POV (DIGITIZED) as he watches her work in a mirror they've
        taken from the washroom.  Sarah and John are standing behind him.
        Her hands are covered with blood, like a surgeon's.

                                TERMINATOR
                Hold the CPU by its base tab.  Pull.

        Following the instructions, she reaches in with a pair of tweezers and
        PULLS -- there is a BURST OF STATIC and the screen goes BLACK.

                                                CUT TO:

89      TIGHT ON JOHN AND SARAH looking at what she has removed.  A reddish-
        brown ceramic rectangle with a connector on one end.  About the size
        and shape of a domino.  On close inspection it appears to be made up
        of small cubes connected together.  It is identical to the shattered
        one in the vault at Cyberdyne Systems.  Now we know it is that that
        Miles Dyson values so highly.  The brain of a terminator.

89A     WIDER.  John walks around Terminator and looks at his face.
        Eyes open, he is completely inert.  Dead.

        John lifts his huge hand.  The dead servos whine sullenly as he forces
        them.  It's like rigor mortis.  He releases the hand and it stays in
        the lifted position.  Sarah examines the CPU chip.

                                JOHN
                Can you see the pin switch?

        She ignores him.  See looks at Terminator.
        The back at the chip.
        Then she sets it on the work table and picks up a small sledge hammer.
        John realizes what she is about to do.  Dives at her as the sledge is
        whistling down.

                                JOHN
                No!!!!

        He slaps his hand down over the chip.
        Sarah barely stops the sledge before smashing his fingers.

                                SARAH
                Out of the way, John!

                                JOHN
                No!  Don't kill him!

                                SARAH
                It, John.  Not him.  It.

                                JOHN
                Alright, it!  We need it!

        John keeps his hand right where it is.

                                SARAH
                We're better off by ourselves.

                                JOHN
                But it's the only proof we have to the future...
                about the war and all that.

                                SARAH
                I don't trust it!  These things are hard to
                kill, John, believe me, I know.  We may never
                have this opportunity again.

                                JOHN
                Look, Mom, if I'm supposed to ever be this great
                leader, you should start listening to my
                leadership ideas once in a while.  'Cause if you
                won't, nobody else will.

        Smart kid.  He's got her.  She nods, reluctantly.  He palms the chip
        and studies it minutely.

89B     John takes a pin and moves the almost invisible switch to the other
        position.
        It is now in "write" mode.  Then he grimaces as he inserts the wafer
        back into the slot in Terminator's skull.
                             
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