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Ender wrote: So while the denizens of the dark planes may seek to gain control over a gate to block the forces of good from interfering with their plans, they aren't stupid enough to actually open the gate and let it out, much less try and offer it a deal.
These particular fiends, however, seem ambitious with their whole "destroy the forces of good" plan. Looking back to the comics starting with #273 which first describe the Snarl, I notice that it appeared, killed Zeus and the other "Gods of the East", then destroyed the world and squatted where it was for centuries. Then the Gods wove a new world around it, imprisoning it.

Perhaps the plan is to kill off the good gods, release the Snarl to erase the old world, and then re-weave a new world with only the evil gods participating. Or to kill two bird with one stone and lure the good gods out and THEN release the Snarl, so it kills them and destroys the world.

Or if the fiends are really ambitious, the plan could be to arrange matters so that the Snarl gets out, kills ALL the gods, and the fiends take over in their place. They may or may not intend to make their own replacement world, or just keep to the Outer Planes. They may also figure they can handle the Snarl better than the Gods, since the comics mention that "some theorists" think that the Snarl is deadlier to Gods than to other beings of a similar level. Foreshadowing ?
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634 is up. And it's quite appropriately titled "The Wrong Reasons".
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Lord of the Abyss wrote:634 is up. And it's quite appropriately titled "The Wrong Reasons".
can't get in to see it, the server must be jammed :(
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Keep hitting refresh try three got it for me.
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Over at SA someone saved it and rehosted because the server is getting crushed. This is, well, this is pretty much it.

I'm betting V grabs those 2 necromantic scrolls and permanently binds the soul splice in place.
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Does somebody else feel kinda sorry for V right now?
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Murazor wrote:Does somebody else feel kinda sorry for V right now?
The end strip was meant to show that, "hey, yeah, deal with the devils? they don't even need fine text to fuck your soul over". Methinks "feelings of omnipotence and dizzyness" might possibly fuck over his family saving, though that's a bit overly done, and a bit dark. He can go nuts just fine without it :).
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Perfectly in character for V but pride is so much coming before a fall.

Could take another option which would require him / her to put trust in her / his friends and require him / her to admit that the situation is to much for her / him to handle, but his / her pride if just to much to say I need help.

Ok couse there was no guarentee that the alternative method would work or work in time but there's no guarentee that the near ultimate power version will work although it seems likely. I'd say if the dragon can do anti-magic sphere again it should counter out even near ultimate power.
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Bedlam wrote: Ok couse there was no guarentee that the alternative method would work or work in time but there's no guarentee that the near ultimate power version will work although it seems likely. I'd say if the dragon can do anti-magic sphere again it should counter out even near ultimate power.
Epic spells work even in an anti-magic field. (And the necromancer could apparently cast "Momento Memori" which is an epic spell, never mind the conjuror).
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Murazor wrote:Does somebody else feel kinda sorry for V right now?
Not really. Whatever disaster results from him taking the deal is a fully self inflicted one. The fiends very carefully made sure of that. They actually went so far as to spell out an alternative plan that didn't involve selling his soul, after all. This is all about V's pride.

I do wonder if there's some part of their larger plan that requires a completely self-damned soul; it does seem odd that they'd go so far as to tell him of another idea that would work.
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Now that's how you run evil characters / npcs / monsters that are more then random encounters.

They don't need to lie. They play on the targets greed, stupidity, and pride. Then point out who's fault it is later on.

If my players ever figured that out, and how to do it, I'd let them run evil characters....

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I don't feel sorry for V, but he just got played like a finely tuned musical instrument. Nicely done, Fiends.
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I guess now we know why Belkar will have a hand in killing V as the Orcale said. This was a wonderfully done bit of story by the Giant.
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avatarxprime wrote:I guess now we know why Belkar will have a hand in killing V as the Orcale said. This was a wonderfully done bit of story by the Giant.
... I don't recall the Oracle saying anything like that. Care to be more specific?
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The Oracle said Belkar would kill one of several people on the list, which included the Oracle himself, whom Belkar killed. The Prophecy about V was that s/he would attain ultimate power and knowledge of magic by saying a four words at the right place, at the right time, for all the wrong reasons.

Those words were "I... I must succeed".
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Full credit to Rich for a great strip. He has a knack for these kind of moments, such as the death of everyone's least favorite fallen Paladin and the powerhouse ending of Start of Darkness.
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SilverWingedSeraph wrote:
avatarxprime wrote:I guess now we know why Belkar will have a hand in killing V as the Orcale said. This was a wonderfully done bit of story by the Giant.
... I don't recall the Oracle saying anything like that. Care to be more specific?
I'm referencing 567 where the Oracle is talking about the different ways that Belkar "caused" the deaths of the people that the Oracle said he would. When he gets to V, Belkar kills him before we get to hear what he had to say about linking V in with Belkar's prophecy. Although it should be noted that the Oracle himself says that he wasn't buying the theories all that much, it still goes toward something Belkar doing resulting in death for V or something close enough as in the case of Windstriker.
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635 up ! Darkside time . . . I like the bit about the pedophile faux-Latin chorus.
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Dark V is pretty much awesome. Will be interesting to see how this relates to the overall story arch though.
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Whipped this up real quick:

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Good one !
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For the curious, the runes around the circle read:

BET YOU THOUGHT YOU HAD FOUND A SECRET MESSAGE IN THIS DIDN'T YOU

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CaptainChewbacca wrote:For the curious, the runes around the circle read:

BET YOU THOUGHT YOU HAD FOUND A SECRET MESSAGE IN THIS DIDN'T YOU
Where's the alphabet from then ?
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Its a made-up alphabet with a letter-substitution cypher. The fact that he kept the word boundaries the same and had a special 'apostrophe' symbol helped.
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You know, the second I saw that first picture from the comic strip, I heard the Imperial march start up....

And that's a good thing.

Now, let's see V go turn that dragon into her bitch (literally), then go and pay Azure City a visit, so we get a....

EPIC LEVEL MAGE FIGHT!
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