Taking down a dragon

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-08-03 01:51pm

Crayz9000 wrote:Just wondering... would an Islamic terrorist with a nuclear bomb strapped to his chest be considered terminal indigestion if eaten?

Not if it's Red/Gold...

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2003-08-03 01:59pm

SirNitram wrote:It's one thing to beat a dragon in a straight fight...

It's quite another to survive when one of them begins plotting with you in mind.

Indeed. If dragons start plotting your demise, it's about time to start thinking about a new occupation.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-08-03 02:01pm

I wonder if Thief from 8-Bit Theatre could outwit a dragon. Probably can... given the stunt he pulled on Matoya.

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2003-08-03 02:07pm

Crayz9000 wrote:I wonder if Thief from 8-Bit Theatre could outwit a dragon. Probably can... given the stunt he pulled on Matoya.

Thief has the same character shields as Marissa Picard or Honor Harrington - anybody opposes him immediately becomes stupid.

Shortie · Post by **Shortie** » 2003-08-03 03:43pm

Iceberg wrote:I also wonder how dragons would react to MANPADs, RPGs, AMRs, shoulder-launched ATGMs, SAMs and the other assorted hazards that exist on the modern battlefield for large, well-armored and ugly targets...

Try SAMs, AGLs and choppers with HE rockets to frag the wings. Once it's on the ground bring in the tanks. A sabot to the head should sort most dragons.

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2003-08-03 03:46pm

I misreported this thread header to Betsy as "How do you take out a dragon?"

Her response was, "Any action movie with lots of explosives and a steakhouse with one of those 60-oz. steak deals."

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-08-03 04:24pm

Iceberg wrote: Indeed. If dragons start plotting your demise, it's about time to start thinking about a new occupation.

Possible occupations include:-
Breakfast
Lunch
Dinner
Charcoal Briquette
Lawn Fertilizer
And many other exciting oppertunities....

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-08-03 04:52pm

The Duchess of Zeon wrote: With the introduction of Afghanistan: D20 we can probably precisely calculate that.

Unfortunately its probably only got Standards represented, though it should be that hard to figure out what a Talos stats would be

Standard Missile SM-2MR works for me. Or if you can pinpoint it on the ground while it's sleeping, TLAM-N (before 1995), TLAM or TACTOM.

But SM-2 doesn't have a nuclear option, why pick off targets individually when you can wipe out a squadron with a single shot? I'd use a SLAM or Have Nap to strike the dragon while sleeping, or better yet a couple BLU-109's to collapse the cave.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-08-03 04:55pm

Shortie wrote: Try SAMs, AGLs and choppers with HE rockets to frag the wings. Once it's on the ground bring in the tanks. A sabot to the head should sort most dragons.

I'd use multipul Starstreaks, the triple shaped charges should blow through the scales quite well.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-08-03 05:19pm

Talos == teh lame. Use the "mobile" Nike Hercules launchers. Maybe even attempt to get a mobile SAM-varient of Spartan

Exonerate · Post by **Exonerate** » 2003-08-03 05:24pm

Tsyroc wrote:
lance wrote:How you take down a dragon in 5 easy steps

1 Find out age and type of opposing dragon,
2 Get good or evil dragon most suited to fighting this type of dragon in the same age group.
3 Offer said dragon 50% of the other dragons horde.
4 When said dragon says 95 agree.
5 Attack! According to your new bosses well made plan.
I like the idea except for possibly being "allied" with an evil dragon. Somehow I think I am screwed after we kill the other dragon.

Get a dragon weaker than the one you're trying to take down. The weaker one dies, and the other one is gravely hurt, easy for pickings. Then proceed to loot both dragons.

Muwhawahaha, I'm devious.

Shortie · Post by **Shortie** » 2003-08-03 06:12pm

Exonerate wrote: Get a dragon weaker than the one you're trying to take down. The weaker one dies, and the other one is gravely hurt, easy for pickings. Then proceed to loot both dragons.

Muwhawahaha, I'm devious.

Or lay clues for another, more powerful group of adventurers that there's something great in the dragon's lair, and then mug them when they've finished and knackered. That way you get all their possessions as well as the horde.

IOW, make it someone else's problem.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-08-03 07:10pm

phongn wrote:Talos == teh lame. Use the "mobile" Nike Hercules launchers. Maybe even attempt to get a mobile SAM-varient of Spartan

Emphasis on the quotation marks. I'll take a my thirty knot cruiser. And as for Spartan, maybe if you used some modification of the shuttles tracked transporter...

However my latest counter dragon plan is to upgrade Observation Island with an even more powerful radar and death ray the thing.

Majin Gojira · Post by **Majin Gojira** » 2003-08-03 08:35pm

Call on something more badass then the dragon in question--Like Godzilla.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-08-03 09:22pm

I think Godzilla would lose to most Ancient Wyrms. Not only are they bigger and more powerful, they are also exceedingly intelligent. (Ancient Red Wyrms would be especially unconcerned, given their immunity to fire.)

Majin Gojira · Post by **Majin Gojira** » 2003-08-03 10:01pm

Crayz9000 wrote:I think Godzilla would lose to most Ancient Wyrms. Not only are they bigger and more powerful, they are also exceedingly intelligent. (Ancient Red Wyrms would be especially unconcerned, given their immunity to fire.)

They top 100m tall? 150m long (taol standing including feet length) total body length of 220m? (Tell me if they are, don't know)

How do they handle radiation? does an immunity to fire grant immunity to radiation?

Can the immunity stop 2kt/second of energy being blasted at him?

Godzilla (Heisie) has lifted and thrown several hundred thousand tons (165,000 tons to be exact). Can they compare?

I'll give the magic and the Inteligence edges, Godzilla can't compare those, but Brute force? Nay I say!

Tasoth · Post by **Tasoth** » 2003-08-03 11:45pm

organize a platoon of dragon hunters in Valiant Power armor, give them some Blaster Autocannons and send them in after heavy airstrikes/artillery bombardment. expect casualties to be extreme.

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2003-08-03 11:52pm

Majin Gojira wrote:They top 100m tall? 150m long (taol standing including feet length) total body length of 220m? (Tell me if they are, don't know)

How do they handle radiation? does an immunity to fire grant immunity to radiation?

Can the immunity stop 2kt/second of energy being blasted at him?

Godzilla (Heisie) has lifted and thrown several hundred thousand tons (165,000 tons to be exact). Can they compare?

I'll give the magic and the Inteligence edges, Godzilla can't compare those, but Brute force? Nay I say!

According to the Great Red Wyrm entry in the 3rd Ed. Monster Manual, its going to be about 80ft long, but don't forget that a good deal of the dragon is going to be vertical. Speaking of vertical, dragons can fly with ease and simply pelt ol' Godzilla with high-level spells, as a Great Red Wyrm is also a 19th level Sorceror.

Majin Gojira · Post by **Majin Gojira** » 2003-08-04 12:42am

JediNeophyte wrote:
Majin Gojira wrote:They top 100m tall? 150m long (taol standing including feet length) total body length of 220m? (Tell me if they are, don't know)

How do they handle radiation? does an immunity to fire grant immunity to radiation?

Can the immunity stop 2kt/second of energy being blasted at him?

Godzilla (Heisie) has lifted and thrown several hundred thousand tons (165,000 tons to be exact). Can they compare?

I'll give the magic and the Inteligence edges, Godzilla can't compare those, but Brute force? Nay I say!
According to the Great Red Wyrm entry in the 3rd Ed. Monster Manual, its going to be about 80ft long, but don't forget that a good deal of the dragon is going to be vertical. Speaking of vertical, dragons can fly with ease and simply pelt ol' Godzilla with high-level spells, as a Great Red Wyrm is also a 19th level Sorceror.

Exactly, They wouldn't/Couldn't match the big G in a physical contest. They'd have to rely on spells and magic to defeat him.

Flight is not that much of an advantage when Godzilla can shoot jets and Apache helicopters out of the sky with ease.

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2003-08-04 01:26am

OFC if their spells can out reach godzillas flames...

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2003-08-04 01:50am

I don't think military tech would do a lot of good. Anyone see "Reign of Fire"?

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-08-04 02:26am

CaptainChewbacca wrote:I don't think military tech would do a lot of good. Anyone see "Reign of Fire"?

Yeah, and I found it to be incredibly stupid. Anyway there's sometime of a difference between fighting a million primary trainers with hand grenades, Reign of Fire dragons, and a couple B-2's armed with smart bombs, most other universes dragons.

Arthur_Tuxedo · Post by **Arthur_Tuxedo** » 2003-08-04 03:43am

I'm surprised no one's mentioned the GAU-8 yet.

BWAHAHAHAHA

Thunderfire · Post by **Thunderfire** » 2003-08-04 03:56am

SirNitram wrote:
Crayz9000 wrote:Just wondering... would an Islamic terrorist with a nuclear bomb strapped to his chest be considered terminal indigestion if eaten?
Not if it's Red/Gold...

Nukes do mostly physical damage - lots of physical damage. A Stellar Dragon
could eat one without fear.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-08-04 04:03am

Net's not forget the Undead Stellar Dragons also called Void, or Singularity Dragons....