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How's your internet? The whole thing is on http://www.surfthechannel.com.LadyTevar wrote:Someone buy me the damned DVDs so I can actually watch this? Nit won't spring for HBO.
Oh yeah, that was indeed great. Poor country cop freaking the fuck out because he gets bizarre murders piled on him.CaptainChewbacca wrote:...you know what? FUCK THIS JOB! I QUIT!
I am Mystic Meg and I claim my £5!Crown wrote:I disagree; I think there is something that is so twisted and dark lurking under the surface that it will shock when revealed; my theory illegal dog fighting with Tommy being the pup that's earning Jollee's (spell?) money.
Oh course he will, she should have used any of the bladed weapons and severed his head, so it's all set up for a Franklin revenge plot.loomer wrote: -It's nice to see Tara being proactive this time. I can only hope Franklin will recover from the skullcrushing, and that she remembers that next time, taking a weapon with her might be an idea. She should have had more strength, though, after drinking up.
SpoilerCaptainChewbacca wrote:I just don't GET Queen Sophie. Is she insane, stupid, or just so powerful that she can choose to ACT stupid and get away with it?
That - as much as I loathe it - is actually in character for her. She likes silly human games, even more games of luck and chance (see her Yahtzee thrill last season - Maenad loose in my kingdom? Who cares. Let's play Yahtzee).lance wrote:Eric went to her for information on the Maenad, and she is younger than him.
I think she spent a bit less time fucking around than other vampires, and more on knowing things.
Though that scene with the lottery tickets is a huge WTF.
I don't know if he was showing her compassion as much as trying to hurt her the only way he could: "I might have loved who you once were, but as you are now I can only hate you."Thanas wrote:Bill - poor guy. He really had a bad week. Although I am once more impressed with his bravery. Trying to stake Russel and showing compassion to Lorena while she cut him up....
Its the only explanation for her being in that position...The Yosemite Bear wrote:I think the TV version has her with some sort of insane luck ability.
Johonebesus wrote:I don't know if he was showing her compassion as much as trying to hurt her the only way he could: "I might have loved who you once were, but as you are now I can only hate you."Thanas wrote:Bill - poor guy. He really had a bad week. Although I am once more impressed with his bravery. Trying to stake Russel and showing compassion to Lorena while she cut him up....
Right, the same guy who set Lorena on fire with an oil lamp, twisted her neck 180° while violently taking her, and has been telling her how monstrous she is and how much he hates her in just about every scene with her.Thanas wrote:Johonebesus wrote:I don't know if he was showing her compassion as much as trying to hurt her the only way he could: "I might have loved who you once were, but as you are now I can only hate you."Thanas wrote:Bill - poor guy. He really had a bad week. Although I am once more impressed with his bravery. Trying to stake Russel and showing compassion to Lorena while she cut him up....
This is Bill we are talking about here - the guy is a giant wet blanket and a white knight rolled into one (or at least he tries to act like one now).
That one is from the novels, and it's not exactly true love at first sight.SpoilerFaqa wrote:The look on Ryan Kwan's face is priceless. Am I the only one who finds his inadequacy issues with Mr Quarterback to be far more compelling than his romance thingy? It's uninteresting and lacks chemistry(though their theme is lovely). Plus.... uh, writers? You get ONE "True love at first sight" story card, and you done played it already on Bill and Sookie. So please, get rid of blond forest girl.
Yes. However, look at his face and behaviour during those scenes and the scene there. Completely different.Johonebesus wrote:Right, the same guy who set Lorena on fire with an oil lamp, twisted her neck 180° while violently taking her, and has been telling her how monstrous she is and how much he hates her in just about every scene with her.
Greek, actually.Faqa wrote: Also - needz moar outrageously flamboyant French vampires. I'm just sayin'.
So apparently Lorena was, in her turn, a procurer for her maker -- Istvan, whom we've not heard of before -- and she got stuck doing Suddenly Last Summer bait-and-switch for him. That is really interesting, if you follow it, not least because making a girl do that is about one of the most disenfranchising things you could do. So then fast-forward and she's all alone in the South looking for company, and she lures these men in and tries to find the right one and feeds on the others -- kiss a lot of frogs, etc. -- and in effect becoming her own Istvan. A whore for her own self. That is truly crazy, if she kept the image of herself as his panderer while also telling herself -- for who knows how long? -- that this was her true nature, like she's always going on about.
And then she finally finds this prince, an actual great guy, who turns out to hate her and everything she stands for, and who basically carries the good part of her in his hands, and... Tells her she can't have it. We're piecing it together, but it flows. Because then Bill's reaction to that, overcorrection and assumptions about his true nature, carry over into his treatment of Jessica, who is only now learning to grow past the terrible things he's done to her in trying to raise her right. So on the one hand you have Jessica, who maybe will redeem the bloodline, and now all of a sudden we're learning about this Istvan, who may or may not still be around but represents the branching head of it. Right?
Okay but then compare to the other few bloodlines we know about: Godric to Eric to Pam (1) -- which is Spartan and beautiful and pure in a lot of ways, and interesting because it's always about teamwork and near-equality and respect and pedagogy -- and Russell to Talbot (2), which stretches so far back that it looks almost normal but is also childless, for reasons that we've seen put a certain pain in Talbot's eyes. And there's Sophie-Anne and Ludis and the rest of her Children we haven't met (3), but I don't remember how much we know about that other than that she likes to keep 'em close.
And all three are royal bloodlines too, don't forget: They are the best and the brightest and have risen the farthest, in sharp contrast to the Istvan line which, at least starting with Lorena-Bill-Jessica, is very young and untrained indeed. And since there's nothing here that isn't a metaphor, and especially given the emphasis on Stackhouse genetics [and the Were Packs, and whatever Hotshot thing], it seems to me that these four families -- and there are at least fifty others in our country alone, just counting royalty -- explicitly and intentionally have something to say about the nature of family itself: If last year was a chess game [albeit between three cults], this year is Falcon Crest. Which makes the Bill and Lorena stuff in this episode fascinating, because not only is it what it is, but it's also a sort of brutal drunk Thanksgiving Dinner throwdown.
Further: "He made you his mirror, just as you tried to make me yours. He is the reason that a girl who once marveled in the beauty of all life now delights in bringing pain and horror to every moment... Your nature was never mine! I welcome death. Because only then will I be truly free of the disease that is you!"
Very dramatic, but viewed in terms of dysfunction -- and what Bill still doesn't understand as abusive parenting on his part, which we always knew had to do with Lorena but now see goes back even further -- almost entirely true. Tara learned that lesson last year, with her own mother; she is still learning it, just like Jesus coming out of Lafayette's relationship with his. Think back to the season premiere, when death seemed like the only way Tara could get free of her own mother/disease.
As I put it to one of my friends who also watches, Tara got a little blunt with Franklin, and he lost his head.Imperial Overlord wrote:Finally, the return of tough girl Tara instead of insufferable, whiny codependent Tara.
BattleTech for SilCoreStanley Hauerwas wrote:[W]hy is it that no one is angry at the inequality of income in this country? I mean, the inequality of income is unbelievable. Unbelievable. Why isn’t that ever an issue of politics? Because you don’t live in a democracy. You live in a plutocracy. Money rules.
In some universes vampires go bye-bye when you smash their skulls to pulp and redecorate in their brain matter. Others have total annihilation of the skull or decapitation and others require special procedures (although True Blood clearly doesn't fall into that category). One way or the other, we're going to find out in the near future.The Dark wrote:
But as stated elsewhere, she should have decapitated him. I doubt what she did will cause true death.
True, but the previous deaths have been rather spectacular (Godric disintegrating, Longshadow and Eddie and Anonymous Mississippian Vampire #37 exploding). Admittedly, this is a different manner of approaching the killing of a vampire, but I'm dubious as to whether it worked, since there was nothing obvious to demonstrate that he was actually dead. As you said, we'll seeImperial Overlord wrote:In some universes vampires go bye-bye when you smash their skulls to pulp and redecorate in their brain matter. Others have total annihilation of the skull or decapitation and others require special procedures (although True Blood clearly doesn't fall into that category). One way or the other, we're going to find out in the near future.The Dark wrote:
But as stated elsewhere, she should have decapitated him. I doubt what she did will cause true death.
.BattleTech for SilCoreStanley Hauerwas wrote:[W]hy is it that no one is angry at the inequality of income in this country? I mean, the inequality of income is unbelievable. Unbelievable. Why isn’t that ever an issue of politics? Because you don’t live in a democracy. You live in a plutocracy. Money rules.
