Favorite Wizard / Sorceress from Fantasy

Grand Admiral Ancaris · Post by **Grand Admiral Ancaris** » 2003-07-05 02:39am

Simon H.Johansen wrote:But does Nagash ride a black dragon??

He doesn't have to - His states are equal to or greater than those of a Dragon.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-07-05 02:45am

Erm there's a brooding Prince of Melnibone out here with a moaning sword that's bigger then he is, wanting to know why he's not been mentioned?

Drach · Post by **Drach** » 2003-07-05 02:57am

He's more of a cleric really, but Cadderly Bonaduce is very cool.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-07-05 05:01am

The Yosemite Bear wrote:Erm there's a brooding Prince of Melnibone out here with a moaning sword that's bigger then he is, wanting to know why he's not been mentioned?

You mean Elric??

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-07-05 02:26pm

Hell yeah, can summon just about anything, can take control over just about any summoned creature, and walks around with a big hulking runesword....

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2003-07-05 04:14pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:I know a mage that could take out Fizban....

His name being Karsus..

Who is this Karsus?

Just wondering because there was a guy called 'Karsus the Archwizard' in Shadows of Undrentide (Newerwinter nights add on). He was stuck in somekind of a hell and was whining about how he appereantly accidentaly destroyed something called the 'Netheril Empire'.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-07-05 05:36pm

That is him!!

He is the wizard, that founded the Karsus enclave in Netheril. The empire of Netheril was an empire of magic, the rules that govern spellcasting were different back then, mages were capable of casting >9th level spells. And they used a mana based casting system.

They could invert mountains, and build cities on the floating cones of rock.

And Karsus destroyed it. He developed and cast a spell called Avatar, that stole the power from and killed Mystryl, the godess of magic. This shut off the flow of magic, causing te cities to fall to the ground, and the influx of power(Mystryl was one of the most powerful gods) killed Karsus.

Mystryls reincarnation, Mystra changed the weave of magic to the casting system you use now...

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2003-07-05 06:28pm

Ah, I see, a god slayer, cool! I've always liked god slayers.

Thanks for the info.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-07-05 06:30pm

It's worth a little emphasis for Karsus.

His first spell was cast when he was 2 years old.

He created material called Heavy Magic, which multiplied the power of a spell a good hundred times, and held it. A simple candle-lighting spell exposed to this stuff created a raging inferno worse than Meteor Swarm.

He was the most powerful wizard of the most powerful magical empire in AD&D. How powerful was Netheril? Read the D&D Calc's/Notes thread that's stickied.

He casually plucked people and objects from the past. So casually he forgot about it a few seconds later.

He was completely fucking mad.

He cast a spell that killed a God. Not a weak little demipower, or under a special circumstance like the Time of Troubles, or with the help of a God. He killed the Goddess of Magic, in her prime, despite the fact she held the power he drew off of. Does this explain how powerful he is? I hope so.

Anyway, following the chaos of that horrible instant(The novel Dangerous Games reveals the real reason his spell failed.. He killed Mystryl, yep. Kept magic in check. Yep. Was about to re-open the Weave and restore Netheril to it's glory. But a lesser mage really, really, really needed to leave, casting a time-travel spell that destabalized Karsus' concentration, destroying magic for just enough time to obliterate his precious Empire...), magic was re-written and split in two by Mystra. The only source of 'whole' magic, that is, magic capable of casting 10th+ level spells, exists as a lump of rock called the 'Karsestone', Karsus petrified heart. And what happens to that thing is still spoiler material..

Karsus is the biggest example of hubris in D&D mythology. Worse, because he nearly succeeded.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-07-05 07:25pm

The only source of 'whole' magic, that is, magic capable of casting 10th+ level spells, exists as a lump of rock called the 'Karsestone', Karsus petrified heart. And what happens to that thing is still spoiler material..

Please enlighten me...

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-07-05 07:27pm

I don't think I should. It'd be really quite unfair.

The novels are the Coming Of The Archwizard's trilogy. Trust me, these are good novels. The series goes Summoning, Siege, Sorcerer. The new Forgotten Realms coverstyle, too. These are good novels. After all, it's Netheril's last survivors coming back...

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-07-05 08:08pm

*evil shit eating grin*

Shrykull · Post by **Shrykull** » 2003-07-06 12:59am

my favorite sorc chics are that nameless one drawn by Clyde Caldwell, with the blonde hair, and this one minax from ultima, she was hot too.

As far as wizards, what about Rajaat from Athas, who was practically a god, changed the whole world in seconds, made the sun from a red to a blue one, and made an still raining storm over the silt sea.

Equinox2003 · Post by **Equinox2003** » 2003-07-09 04:01am

Radagast the Brown. Only joking......
Gandalf the White.
He set Frodo on his way before he was found, escaped from Isengard,
saved the Fellowship from a balrog...the guy was great.

Post by **Edi** » 2003-07-09 04:44am

Besides Gandalf, obviously, Gerald Tarrant, the Hunter from C.S. Friedman's Coldfire trilogy, Raistlin and Fizban. Once upon a time I might have said Elminster, but I really can't stand him or almost any of Ed Greenwood's characters after his later works (such as the Elminster books, bleurrggh...).

Then there's Vanyel Ashkevron from Mercedes Lackey's Valdemar books, or more accurately I should say that I like the Vanyel portrayed in the songs of Valdemar even better.

And as much as I hate Terry Goodkind's work, I liked the characters Zedd and Adie.

Edi

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-07-09 04:54am

Does the person have to be totally fictional, or just that they were turned into a sorcerer in the fictional version of their story?

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-07-09 06:23am

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:Does the person have to be totally fictional, or just that they were turned into a sorcerer in the fictional version of their story?

Why?? Have you written a fanfic where you are an all-powerful sorceress?

Cthulhu-chan · Post by **Cthulhu-chan** » 2003-07-09 09:29am

There will always be a special place in my heart for that magnificent bastard, Raistlin Majere. He may not have the raw power and talent of this Karsus fellow (I mean really, now...), but damn it all, he worked and strived and suffered for his chance to slay a god. He would have done it, too, if it wasn't for the fact that it would have been a hollow and self-defeating victory...

Lina Inverse kicks ass, too.

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2003-07-09 02:08pm

Equinox2003 wrote:Radagast the Brown. Only joking......
Gandalf the White.
He set Frodo on his way before he was found, escaped from Isengard,
saved the Fellowship from a balrog...the guy was great.

Bah, Gandalf is nothing to the knowledgable power behind Zifnab/Fizban. And Gandalf is nowhere near as powerful.

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-07-09 02:24pm

Belgerath the Sorceror!

He's great, though to be honest Fizban is funnier....

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-07-09 03:32pm

Hmmm, either Ishmael/Mordin from Wheel of Time or One Eye from the Black Company.

Death from the Sea · Post by **Death from the Sea** » 2003-07-09 03:42pm

Stormbringer wrote:Bah, that title falls to Merlin, with Gandalf a very close second.

I would agree

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2003-07-09 03:49pm

Death from the Sea wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:Bah, that title falls to Merlin, with Gandalf a very close second.
I would agree

Yeah, whatever, keep telling yourselves that.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-07-09 04:33pm

Cthulhu-chan wrote:There will always be a special place in my heart for that magnificent bastard, Raistlin Majere. He may not have the raw power and talent of this Karsus fellow (I mean really, now...), but damn it all, he worked and strived and suffered for his chance to slay a god. He would have done it, too, if it wasn't for the fact that it would have been a hollow and self-defeating victory...

I quite agree, Raistlin's weakness made him a very well-rounded character. Karsus was simply insanely powerful and insane.

My personal favorite is, however, a Netherese. Not an Archwizard, though. The Steward of one, named Candlemas. Sure, he never made his own flying city or slew a God, but he was a lovable character who suffered and truly changed into a better person, before sacrificing himself to try and undo his mistakes.

*sniff*

Poor bald bastard...

Darth Gojira · Post by **Darth Gojira** » 2003-07-09 08:25pm

Tim the Enchanter!