Why is Harry Potter hated and loved by different people?

Majin Gojira · Post by **Majin Gojira** » 2003-08-14 03:06pm

Simon H.Johansen wrote:
Majin Gojira wrote:[OT Rant] Ya know, that's what bugs me about Buffy/HP crossover Fanfics.
Which sort of HP?? Does it stand for "Harry Potter", or is it the HP commonly followed by a Lovecraft?? (sorry, but your mention of Cthulhu just sent me wondering)

Buffy already incorporates Lovecraft a little bit (slight nods here and there, references, etc), despite what some fanfic authors say (those authors BTW also incorporate a mega-overdose of Christian Theology, despite the general lack of God in the Buffyverse outside of the Cross...)

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-08-18 09:49am

Majin Gojira wrote:
Simon H.Johansen wrote:
Majin Gojira wrote:[OT Rant] Ya know, that's what bugs me about Buffy/HP crossover Fanfics.
Which sort of HP?? Does it stand for "Harry Potter", or is it the HP commonly followed by a Lovecraft?? (sorry, but your mention of Cthulhu just sent me wondering)
Buffy already incorporates Lovecraft a little bit

(goes off to write a Willlow Rosenberg/Asenath Waite slashfic)

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-08-18 09:59am

Simon H.Johansen wrote:
(goes off to write a Willlow Rosenberg/Asenath Waite slashfic)

I see we've appropriately corrupted your mind.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-08-18 12:57pm

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Simon H.Johansen wrote:
(goes off to write a Willlow Rosenberg/Asenath Waite slashfic)
I see we've appropriately corrupted your mind.

Relax, I was only joking.

justifier · Post by **justifier** » 2003-08-18 02:59pm

Simon H.Johansen wrote:
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Simon H.Johansen wrote:
(goes off to write a Willlow Rosenberg/Asenath Waite slashfic)
I see we've appropriately corrupted your mind.
Relax, I was only joking.

Damn!

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-08-19 09:48am

justifier wrote:
Simon H.Johansen wrote:
The Duchess of Zeon wrote: I see we've appropriately corrupted your mind.
Relax, I was only joking.
Damn!

Slashfics are below me. Also, I have several "golden rules" when writing stories - and one of them is avoiding drowning the story in pointless sex.

But if you want to write a story where Willow snuggles her Innsmouth counterpart, feel free.

Majin Gojira · Post by **Majin Gojira** » 2003-08-19 09:52am

[Insert disturbing images of Innsmouth native, Willow and a scene from american pie: "Say my name, bitch!", here]

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-08-19 10:54am

Majin Gojira wrote:[Insert disturbing images of Innsmouth native, Willow and a scene from american pie: "Say my name, bitch!", here]

Hey, according to "The Thing On The Doorstep" Asenath Waite is quite attractive - the only trace of her Innsmouth lineage is her overprotuberant eyes...

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-08-19 04:29pm

::twitch::

Oh, good, you aren't actually going to write a slashfic.

Arthur_Tuxedo · Post by **Arthur_Tuxedo** » 2003-08-20 05:06am

Gotta love SDN. Only place I know where a Harry Potter thread turns into one about Lovecraftian slashfics and no one bats an eye.

JodoForce · Post by **JodoForce** » 2003-08-20 10:05am

*Bats eyes*

Singular Quartet · Post by **Singular Quartet** » 2003-08-20 10:10am

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:Gotta love SDN. Only place I know where a Harry Potter thread turns into one about Lovecraftian slashfics and no one bats an eye.

Ands people claim SBC is a hvie of villany and Sin, sheesh... oh, wait, that was Tron who said that. Never mind. Hopefuly the eyebeamz won't find me here...

Anyways... I say something as to the actual topic, but it'd mostly be rehashing the thread. Needless to say, I actually rather like the series, although the later books might stand for just a wee bit of editing...

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-08-20 12:51pm

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:Gotta love SDN. Only place I know where a Harry Potter thread turns into one about Lovecraftian slashfics and no one bats an eye.

BTW - while I'm never going to write any slashfics about Asenath Waite, count on soon seeing a short story for me - "The Highway Of Hell", a horror tale written in anniversary of Lovecraft's 113-year birthday.

Lt. Nebfer · Post by **Lt. Nebfer** » 2003-08-25 11:01pm

well at first "I" wouldent tuch them at all... but the rest of my famly did

then the greatest horrer of all time i was forced to listen to books 2&3 on a 30 hour car trip (on anoter one we did dune... all 24 hours of it:)
then i saw movie 1 (it was ok)

then one day i got realy bord then i decieded to read them all 4 of them yet read book 5 but we read it out loud and i listend
then i saw movie 2......

BlackWarMewtwo · Post by **BlackWarMewtwo** » 2003-08-29 02:16am

Lt. Nebfer wrote:well at first "I" wouldent tuch them at all... but the rest of my famly did

then the greatest horrer of all time i was forced to listen to books 2&3 on a 30 hour car trip (on anoter one we did dune... all 24 hours of it:)
then i saw movie 1 (it was ok)

then one day i got realy bord then i decieded to read them all 4 of them yet read book 5 but we read it out loud and i listend
then i saw movie 2......

I'm having a little trouble understanding this. At the end of this harrowing experience, what was your opinion of the series in general? Loved them? Hated them? Tolerated them?

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-08-29 04:12am

FaxModem1 wrote:Having read none of the books and only seen the movies, I am curious why so many people love the books and why so many people hate them. Is there a reason?

Because a single person can't both love it and hate it at the same time?

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-08-29 04:24am

Ok, seriously, I saw the cover of that book and annoyed the hell out of me, the character looked stupidly childish and I felt insulted just by watching it. Then my brother, who is sort of a mild retard, got it as a gift, he tried to read it but thought it was too childish, and then asked if people could please give him something worth reading like the Man in the Iron Mask or Gulliver.

Then one day I was really bored, and saw the movie on cable. And it looked stupidly childish and I felt insulted just by watching it.

Guess you can judge some books by their cover.

NOTE: I did feel that the Quidchithchhhhh game wasn't as stupid as I had figured out from reading about it was on reviews & stuff (good reviews, that explained the game, which DID feel stupid)

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-08-30 02:06pm

I don't like Happy Potter for one simple reason. All this hype about it beinf a new revolitionary tale is bollocks. The woman who write them simply took LotR, Sabrina the Teenage Witch and Roal Dhal books and mixed them all up saying it was an all new original idea. The MTV generation are told that it's good and to buy the shit so they do. It's as simple as that.

Vendetta · Post by **Vendetta** » 2003-08-30 02:36pm

Lord Pounder wrote:I don't like Happy Potter for one simple reason. All this hype about it beinf a new revolitionary tale is bollocks. The woman who write them simply took LotR, Sabrina the Teenage Witch and Roal Dhal books and mixed them all up saying it was an all new original idea. The MTV generation are told that it's good and to buy the shit so they do. It's as simple as that.

You haven't actually read them, have you?

Of all those things, the only one that holds true is that she uses some time honoured techniques that Roald Dahl used prolifcally and to perfection (ie. the creation of a really nasty bastard, who you can cackle evilly along with as they go around being horrible to everyone, but then turn around and enjoy it when they get their comeuppance)

The rest is an ageworn story in itself, the destined one overthrowing the great evil, and most elements are fairly predictable (As soon as they're introduced you can generally figure out their role in the story), but it's not notably derived from any source other than folklore and fairytales for it's creatures, and life in a British boarding school for it's characters.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-08-31 03:46am

Vendetta wrote: The rest is an ageworn story in itself, the destined one overthrowing the great evil, and most elements are fairly predictable (As soon as they're introduced you can generally figure out their role in the story), but it's not notably derived from any source other than folklore and fairytales for it's creatures, and life in a British boarding school for it's characters.

Aren't most fantasy about this story - just with some new ideas thrown in each time?

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-08-31 03:56am

I have the British edition of the fifth book, and guess what? The cover illustration isn't "childish" as you are all complaining the American version is. Why don't you literally stop judging a book by it's cover?

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-08-31 04:15am

Because later I confirmed it by actually knowing what was inside?

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-08-31 06:07am

DPDarkPrimus wrote:I have the British edition of the fifth book, and guess what? The cover illustration isn't "childish" as you are all complaining the American version is. Why don't you literally stop judging a book by it's cover?

Yes, but which British version do you have?

or

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-08-31 06:34am

Totally indifferent. I have no desire to read them- in fact, I haven't read a really good book in literally *years*. The last good series I went through was Piers Anthony's Hope Hubris books.

Crazedwraith · Post by **Crazedwraith** » 2003-08-31 07:24am

innerbrat wrote:
DPDarkPrimus wrote:I have the British edition of the fifth book, and guess what? The cover illustration isn't "childish" as you are all complaining the American version is. Why don't you literally stop judging a book by it's cover?
Yes, but which British version do you have? or

The second. Though u can get both over here. I dont thing the 1st childish anyway.

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