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Wow, Geoff Johns actually managed to end an event as strongly as he started it for once. Gorgeous pencils by both Reis and Van Sciver (the two week delay was worth it) complemented by both Moose Bauman and Rod Resi' coloring, fun final battles, my favorite Guy line of the War ("Hey, Marshmallow Man!" ) - it's all great. And of course, now we know the title of the final part of the trilogy. Yes, I cannot for Summer 2009 and coming of The Blackest Night. So, until then, bring on the Alpha Lanterns...
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Having read this comic, I wholeheartedly concur . I can barely remember I had so much fun reading a comic (That wasn't done by one of the actually good writers in the genre, but that's beside the point).
The splash scenes and the way he made it feel like "Everyone" was involved was great, the artwork was fantastic (Especially with the 7 Lanterns), although I disliked the Guardians "green dna schtick".
Favourite scenes:
"This is a Sentient smallpox virus. And he's been looking for some payback for a long time".
The Guardians speech and subsequent ass-kicking on the Anti-monitor.
"Green LAnterns! Thank you"
""Grandmaster operational".
The 7 lanterns sequence.
"Wait, why is Sinestro smiling" and what comes thereafter.
"You're weak, like all the others". "I'll take it from here".
The ending montage parts with SBP ("IT's back"), And The awesome final scene that dares not speak it's name .
The splash scenes and the way he made it feel like "Everyone" was involved was great, the artwork was fantastic (Especially with the 7 Lanterns), although I disliked the Guardians "green dna schtick".
Favourite scenes:
"This is a Sentient smallpox virus. And he's been looking for some payback for a long time".
The Guardians speech and subsequent ass-kicking on the Anti-monitor.
"Green LAnterns! Thank you"
""Grandmaster operational".
The 7 lanterns sequence.
"Wait, why is Sinestro smiling" and what comes thereafter.
"You're weak, like all the others". "I'll take it from here".
The ending montage parts with SBP ("IT's back"), And The awesome final scene that dares not speak it's name .
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Those were really sad. I like how Johns has managed to turn the Cyborg Superman from a slightly silly 2D villian into a really tragic character.DEATH wrote:
"Green LAnterns! Thank you"
""Grandmaster operational".
"We will build cities in a day!"
"Man would cower at the sight!"
"We will build towers to the heavens!"
"Man was not built for such a height!"
"We will be heroes!"
"We will BUILD heroes!"
[/size][/i]That was a great twist in Green Lantern # 22 when we discovered why Henshaw had allied with the Sinestro Corps. Of course now, he has an even bigger axe to grind against the GLC than ever before; in his eyes, they've robbed him of his one chance to finally die. I'm damm curious as to what role he'll play in the The Blackest Night. With most of the core leadership either incarcerated, dead, or unavailable, it's possible that he may take over leadership of the Sinestro Corps. Based on the solicitations for upcoming issues of Green Lantern Corps, however, my money's on Mongul assuming control of what's left of Sinestro's army..Manus Celer Dei wrote:Those were really sad. I like how Johns has managed to turn the Cyborg Superman from a slightly silly 2D villian into a really tragic character.DEATH wrote:
"Green LAnterns! Thank you"
""Grandmaster operational".
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JME2 wrote:That was a great twist in Green Lantern # 22 when we discovered why Henshaw had allied with the Sinestro Corps. Of course now, he has an even bigger axe to grind against the GLC than ever before; in his eyes, they've robbed him of his one chance to finally die. I'm damm curious as to what role he'll play in the The Blackest Night. With most of the core leadership either incarcerated, dead, or unavailable, it's possible that he may take over leadership of the Sinestro Corps. Based on the solicitations for upcoming issues of Green Lantern Corps, however, my money's on Mongul assuming control of what's left of Sinestro's army..Manus Celer Dei wrote:Those were really sad. I like how Johns has managed to turn the Cyborg Superman from a slightly silly 2D villian into a really tragic character.DEATH wrote:
"Green LAnterns! Thank you"
""Grandmaster operational".
MAkes sense, I'd place cash on him killing any who'd oppose him, with the more "ideological" Yellow lanterns siding with him anyway. A leadership struggle with Sinestro around late 2008 sounds about right, just before 2009 .
I must say, Green Lantern has impressed me as I never thought it would/could a year or two ago, when it was basically "Yellow fear monster Retcon!" "Hal R0cokzorz!" "Evil lantern corps!" , but utilizing of Alan Moore's premises and even building up from it has worked really well
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Genius is always allowed some leeway, once the hammer has been pried from its hands and the blood has been cleaned up.
To improve is to change; to be perfect is to change often.
Genius is always allowed some leeway, once the hammer has been pried from its hands and the blood has been cleaned up.
To improve is to change; to be perfect is to change often.
*whine*
I don't have the issue and likely can't get it for a bit.
I don't have the issue and likely can't get it for a bit.
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"No folly is more costly than the folly of intolerant idealism." - Sir Winston L. S. Churchill, Princips Britannia
American Conservatism is about the exercise of personal responsibility without state interference in the lives of the citizenry..... unless, of course, it involves using the bludgeon of state power to suppress things Conservatives do not like.
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Speaking of contenders for positions of leadership, who do you think it was that captured the Anti-Monitor, bent him to his/her/its will and is leading the Black Lanterns? I've got two possible candidates based on the available evidence.DEATH wrote:JME2 wrote:That was a great twist in Green Lantern # 22 when we discovered why Henshaw had allied with the Sinestro Corps. Of course now, he has an even bigger axe to grind against the GLC than ever before; in his eyes, they've robbed him of his one chance to finally die. I'm damm curious as to what role he'll play in the The Blackest Night. With most of the core leadership either incarcerated, dead, or unavailable, it's possible that he may take over leadership of the Sinestro Corps. Based on the solicitations for upcoming issues of Green Lantern Corps, however, my money's on Mongul assuming control of what's left of Sinestro's army..Manus Celer Dei wrote: Those were really sad. I like how Johns has managed to turn the Cyborg Superman from a slightly silly 2D villian into a really tragic character.
MAkes sense, I'd place cash on him killing any who'd oppose him, with the more "ideological" Yellow lanterns siding with him anyway. A leadership struggle with Sinestro around late 2008 sounds about right, just before 2009 .
In regards to the first, we have to examine the undead nature of the Black Lanterns. Now, which villain was co-created by Geoff Johns and leads an army of undead followers? Answer: Lady Styx, antagonist of the space heroes in 52 and the Mystery in Space and Countdown to Adventure mini-series. She's possible, but it ultimately hinges upon whether or not she makes it out of Countdown to Adventure alive.
In regarss to the second, it comes back to Alan Moore. Moore's writings in Tales of the Green Lantern Corps Annual # 2 gave us Sodam Yat, Ranx the Sentient City, and the Children of the Lobe's involvment in the Sinestro Corps War. But, recall who it was that relayed this prophecy to Abin Sur and set this in motion. Qull of the Five Inversions, a demon of the Empire of Tears, the Oans' oldest enemy faction.
Of course, I could be wrong on both counts; this could, heh, ring true given the significance of the Black Lantern's symbol...
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JME2 wrote:Speaking of contenders for positions of leadership, who do you think it was that captured the Anti-Monitor, bent him to his/her/its will and is leading the Black Lanterns? I've got two possible candidates based on the available evidence.DEATH wrote:JME2 wrote: That was a great twist in Green Lantern # 22 when we discovered why Henshaw had allied with the Sinestro Corps. Of course now, he has an even bigger axe to grind against the GLC than ever before; in his eyes, they've robbed him of his one chance to finally die. I'm damm curious as to what role he'll play in the The Blackest Night. With most of the core leadership either incarcerated, dead, or unavailable, it's possible that he may take over leadership of the Sinestro Corps. Based on the solicitations for upcoming issues of Green Lantern Corps, however, my money's on Mongul assuming control of what's left of Sinestro's army..
MAkes sense, I'd place cash on him killing any who'd oppose him, with the more "ideological" Yellow lanterns siding with him anyway. A leadership struggle with Sinestro around late 2008 sounds about right, just before 2009 .
In regards to the first, we have to examine the undead nature of the Black Lanterns. Now, which villain was co-created by Geoff Johns and leads an army of undead followers? Answer: Lady Styx, antagonist of the space heroes in 52 and the Mystery in Space and Countdown to Adventure mini-series. She's possible, but it ultimately hinges upon whether or not she makes it out of Countdown to Adventure alive.
There's NO way it's her. IT's not her stich, she's not popular, scary, or charismatic enough, and this seems like something for either a new character, or something with some serious background Mojo. This'll happen AFTER Final crisis.
In regarss to the second, it comes back to Alan Moore. Moore's writings in Tales of the Green Lantern Corps Annual # 2 gave us Sodam Yat, Ranx the Sentient City, and the Children of the Lobe's involvment in the Sinestro Corps War. But, recall who it was that relayed this prophecy to Abin Sur and set this in motion. Qull of the Five Inversions, a demon of the Empire of Tears, the Oans' oldest enemy faction.
Qull- was a minor demon in the Empire. But the King/Emperor of tears, (Not the thing that trashed the spectre in JSA, that's something else) or their leader - maybe, but still, seems to easy.
Something that can put the fucking Anti-monitor in a JAR and keep him there, even given time to recover, reads "Final crisis" or "Post FC grand ultimate being behind everything" (same as the AM used to be).
Of course, I could be wrong on both counts; this could, heh, ring true given the significance of the Black Lantern's symbol...
I'd like to think so . I'd guess that it's something entirely new, or something unseen and very old and nasty. .
Where is the symbol from? It looks like Legion flight rings a bit
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Black Hand's costume. Behold:DEATH wrote: Where is the symbol from? It looks like Legion flight rings a bit
The Black Hand
The Blackest Night
Makes me wonder if those Alien Nazi Goblins from that arc early in GL will tie into this.
"We will build cities in a day!"
"Man would cower at the sight!"
"We will build towers to the heavens!"
"Man was not built for such a height!"
"We will be heroes!"
"We will BUILD heroes!"
[/size][/i]Um...didn't the Spectre turn Black Hand's hand to coal, awhile back?Manus Celer Dei wrote:Black Hand's costume. Behold:DEATH wrote: Where is the symbol from? It looks like Legion flight rings a bit
The Black Hand
The Blackest Night
Makes me wonder if those Alien Nazi Goblins from that arc early in GL will tie into this.
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Yeah, but later his powers were changed by the some strange little german-speaking goblin aliens and he was able to create a new hand.Molyneux wrote:Um...didn't the Spectre turn Black Hand's hand to coal, awhile back?Manus Celer Dei wrote:Black Hand's costume. Behold:DEATH wrote: Where is the symbol from? It looks like Legion flight rings a bit
The Black Hand
The Blackest Night
Makes me wonder if those Alien Nazi Goblins from that arc early in GL will tie into this.
"We will build cities in a day!"
"Man would cower at the sight!"
"We will build towers to the heavens!"
"Man was not built for such a height!"
"We will be heroes!"
"We will BUILD heroes!"
[/size][/i]...and once again, I remember why I like sticking to smaller publishers that don't take themselves so damned seriously...Manus Celer Dei wrote:Yeah, but later his powers were changed by the some strange little german-speaking goblin aliens and he was able to create a new hand.Molyneux wrote:Um...didn't the Spectre turn Black Hand's hand to coal, awhile back?Manus Celer Dei wrote: Black Hand's costume. Behold:
The Black Hand
The Blackest Night
Makes me wonder if those Alien Nazi Goblins from that arc early in GL will tie into this.
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In addition, my buddies over on Newsarama pointed out that Black Hand said something very interesting back in issue # 6:Manus Celer Dei wrote:Yeah, but later his powers were changed by the some strange little german-speaking goblin aliens and he was able to create a new hand.Molyneux wrote:Um...didn't the Spectre turn Black Hand's hand to coal, awhile back?Manus Celer Dei wrote: Black Hand's costume. Behold:
The Black Hand
The Blackest Night
Makes me wonder if those Alien Nazi Goblins from that arc early in GL will tie into this.
Now, given my Empire of the Tears theory, it's more likey that Black Hand's role in this is as the Black Lanterns' Guardian, much as the Anti-Monitor was for the Sinestro Corps.Black Hand wrote:"Death has power. It is the true color of the universe. It's m-m-my power."
I'd also like to point foreshadowing of the four remaining new corps courtesey of Henshaw's words to the Guardians in the Sinestro Corps Special:
Given his own desire for death, it's also possible that Henshaw may end up as a herald again, this time for the Black LanternsCyborg Superman wrote:"Without life there will be no fear or avarice or hate."
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I was all-around astounded with this whole event, and I can't wait to see what happens next. I just hope it all doesn't become worthless in Final Crisis.
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My mind is like a jungle that's on fire. And the fire is obviously made of unicorns. And pie. Firemen go to put out the fire, but you can't extinguish the magic that is unicorns, pie, and unicorns made of pie.
According to the solicitations, the first post-war arc, "The Alpha Lanterns", will set up the GLC's role in Final Crisis. Hopefully the GLC's involvement in Final Crisis will help build towards The Blackest Night much as their involvement in Infinite Crisis helped build up towards the Sinestro Corps War.Ioudas Omnis wrote:I was all-around astounded with this whole event, and I can't wait to see what happens next. I just hope it all doesn't become worthless in Final Crisis.
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That would be wonderful, yeah. Geoff seems to know what's doing, so I think he'll work them into the Crisis and the next big event very nicely--even if I don't like what he did with The Spectre.JME2 wrote:According to the solicitations, the first post-war arc, "The Alpha Lanterns", will set up the GLC's role in Final Crisis. Hopefully the GLC's involvement in Final Crisis will help build towards The Blackest Night much as their involvement in Infinite Crisis helped build up towards the Sinestro Corps War.Ioudas Omnis wrote:I was all-around astounded with this whole event, and I can't wait to see what happens next. I just hope it all doesn't become worthless in Final Crisis.
I'm also increasingly curious who the new Lanterns would be. I keep reading different suggestions, and all of them seem interesting.
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My mind is like a jungle that's on fire. And the fire is obviously made of unicorns. And pie. Firemen go to put out the fire, but you can't extinguish the magic that is unicorns, pie, and unicorns made of pie.
I actually got it. And read it. I cannot fucking wait for this to play out. That issue was fucking awesome.
I also liked the GLC #19 epilogue.
I also liked the GLC #19 epilogue.
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No. A red ring on the other hand . (OR Black for his old grandfather).The Yosemite Bear wrote:Question?, would Ibn/Damien Wayne be a scary sight with a yellow ring?
Also, I can't be the only one who saw the Red Lanterns and thought. "World War Red"? . Especially with the Red Hulk revamp
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Genius is always allowed some leeway, once the hammer has been pried from its hands and the blood has been cleaned up.
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To improve is to change; to be perfect is to change often.
Alright, even though the war is over, there's still at least one or two more issues of interest coming out this week. The first of the post-war issues and the first issue of "The Alpha Lanterns", Green Lantern # 26, goes on sale tomorrow. Secondly and more directly, the Green Lantern/Sinestro Corps Secret Files, which gives a complete overview of all major members of both the GLC and SC, is also on sale tomorrow.
Hope everyone's having a Merry Christmas.
Hope everyone's having a Merry Christmas.