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Re: Avengers: Age of Ultron Leak

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Peggy Carter is almost certainly a flashback, she was apparently filming a 1940s scene in England. We already saw old Peggy anyway in CA2. So unless time-travel shenanigans are in effect, she's out for that scene.
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Oh she is most certainly a flashback. I was merely commenting that she is in it.
Possibly in an opening scene establishing the very basic origins of Ultron, or what will become Ultron. They've already established the ability to transfer human consciousness into computers.

Or in a Scarlet Witch Cap scene where she reveals something to him. Apparently that happens.
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Havok wrote:However the initial suits, the blue and white one Ultron crushes the head of and Ultron, clearly have internal workings that make them automated robots and not suits.
You and Tevar are right, there are definitely robot/drone suits in the trailer.

You can also see the, shall we say, "Proto-Ultron" leaving a trail of water/oil/mud/some sort of fluids as he steps into view. The mess is dripping off him as he walks, and just before he reaches down to crush the remains of the robot suit.

Floor is clean. No sign of the robot armor anywhere:

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Note the wet footprints from Ultron on the floor:

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The line of wet footprints is just below the curved wall.

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Glass everywhere. Where did the Robot suit come from? Glassed-in case we don't see?

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Did anyone else notice the "Avengers" logo on Ultron?

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Could the mystery woman somehow be Elizabeth Olsen?
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Gaidin wrote:Could the mystery woman somehow be Elizabeth Olsen?
ans Elizabeth Olsen is who?
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Lord Revan wrote:
Gaidin wrote:Could the mystery woman somehow be Elizabeth Olsen?
ans Elizabeth Olsen is who?
Elizabeth Olsen is playing Scarlet Witch, seen screaming in the trailers and using her powers. I doubt the woman in blue is her.
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Elheru Aran wrote:Supposedly "doctor/scientist and friend of Tony Stark". I have no idea who she could be, though. I doubt she's meant to be Carol Danvers as being an Air Force captain has always been part of her identity. Could be a new take, I suppose. An alternative might be an AI scientist who helps Stark create Ultron. Jocasta?

Ooh. Janet Van Dyne?
Probably not Van Dyne, since they are skipping over the Pym-as-Ant-Man era in that movie and going straight to Scott Lang (possibly because Stark is the creator of Ultron in the MCU, and the main thing in the comics Pym's known for besides that is the time he hit Janet during one of his nervous breakdowns). According to IMDB, the Ant-Man movie has Michael Douglas as Pym, and Evangeline Lilly as Hope Van Dyne, which implies that Janet would be older than the unknown woman in the Age of Ultron preview.
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Random thought: Rumiko Fujikawa?

Bear with me. Asian? Check. Hot chick? (matter of taste I know) Check. Associated with Stark? Check.

Apart from that, Rumiko never did much in the comics aside from being a love interest and occasional hostage. So the doctor/scientist description of the new character is a bit different, and it's something of a Chekov's Gun situation. If she's literally only eye-candy for a minor scene, why even bother?

Granted, it would fit Stark's playboy persona. Perhaps he breaks up with Pepper or something. Unlikely, though. So she has to have some role to play, most likely in the development of Ultron or the rebuilding of SHIELD.

Rumiko is a long shot, I know, but it's the only one I could come up with, unless they're rolling with a younger version of Janet Dyne.

...and a Google reveals another possibility: Suzi Endo, the Cybermancer from the mid-90s. Apparently she worked with Stark and fought Ultron.
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FSTargetDrone wrote:You and Tevar are right, there are definitely robot/drone suits in the trailer.

*snip Pictures and captions*
I think we will find those are two completely different scenes. They wouldn't be having a casual gathering with drinks with destroyed Iron Drones everywhere.
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The "What is this logo?" logo is another Avengers A.
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Havok wrote:
FSTargetDrone wrote:You and Tevar are right, there are definitely robot/drone suits in the trailer.

*snip Pictures and captions*
I think we will find those are two completely different scenes. They wouldn't be having a casual gathering with drinks with destroyed Iron Drones everywhere.
Possible. It's also possible that, upon the arrival of Ultron Mk 1 (or whatever), someone pushes a button and a couple of Stark's drones show up to put him down. Ultron then kicks the drones' asses and crushes one's head for a demonstration, and in the process a bunch of glass breaks.

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I think the cut is between them having a party to some kind of security alert to Ultron showing up, as in they clipped about 50 seconds of movie out to avoid giving to much away.
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Havok wrote:I think we will find those are two completely different scenes. They wouldn't be having a casual gathering with drinks with destroyed Iron Drones everywhere.
Which is why I think it was deployed from elsewhere and entered the room, as people mentioned above. Especially as the background seems to match that area where Ultron first enters.
Did anyone else notice the "Avengers" logo on Ultron?
I did, and noted it.
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In the comics, Cap is one of the half dozen or so people deemed worthy of the big hammer.
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Ahriman238 wrote:In the comics, Cap is one of the half dozen or so people deemed worthy of the big hammer.
maybe this Cap isn't worthy at least not yet, after all we don't really know what it takes to be deemed "worthy" in the MCU
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We don't really know in the comics either, presumably because the writers know any simple explanation will be poked full of holes (especially since Deadpool qualifies). That and they have no reason to explain when we're perfectly willing to accept that it was very strict standards.
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In the movie universe, maybe Stark is right and "worthy" just means "can only be picked up by someone with Thor's fingerprints when Odin says so."
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Simon_Jester wrote:In the movie universe, maybe Stark is right and "worthy" just means "can only be picked up by someone with Thor's fingerprints when Odin says so."
If that were the case, there'd be little reason for Odin to say, explicitly, "whosoever" when enchanting/programming Mjölnir. He could've just said "If Thor be worthy, when he holds this hammer, he shall regain his power," when banishing him. Plus, Thor's face when Cap budges it surely implies a real concern that someone else could be worthy.
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Simon_Jester wrote:In the movie universe, maybe Stark is right and "worthy" just means "can only be picked up by someone with Thor's fingerprints when Odin says so."
If that were the case, there'd be little reason for Odin to say, explicitly, "whosoever" when enchanting/programming Mjölnir. He could've just said "If Thor be worthy, when he holds this hammer, he shall regain his power," when banishing him. Plus, Thor's face when Cap budges it surely implies a real concern that someone else could be worthy.
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Terralthra wrote:Even better than Captain budging Mjolnir slightly was Thor's face when he heard it budge.
Well Cap is probably the most worthy of those in the room (other than Thor himself), but that little nudge is probably a clue as to something happening later in the movie. Say, Thor is knocked out of the fight and Cap is forced to take up the hammer to defend innocents or to attack the big baddie even though it may mean his death. Protecting the innocent or noble self-sacrifice are two ideas that Mjolnir could very well consider to be worthy.
IIRC, Thor did both before the Mjolnir flew to him. He told Loki, through the robot, not to hurt the others, it was Thor he wanted. Thor self-sacrificed to save innocents. So, I'd say that's gonna be what Cap does to wield Mjolnir as well.
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Refresher:



"Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall posses the power of Thor."

So does that mean Cap can summon lightning? ;)
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If he is worthy yes. However, Thor is still an Asguardian. I think his brain and physiology are sufficiently different that Cap may not be able to control the power.
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If he proves worthy, yes. It doesn't say 'shall be able to actually lift the damned hammer', it says 'shall possess the power of Thor', and that definitely includes the ability to bring down the lightning.
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Maybe Cap is worthy, but he is still just nowhere near strong enough anyway?
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Shouldn't 'possessing the power of Thor' include the ability to actually lift that damned hammer?
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