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IT'S HERE! COMIC-CON TRAILER;



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I'm just curious if she was ever mentioned in history books in the DCEU.
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I'm going to enjoy this movie. The inclusion of a proper Etta Candy is cool. Also, it's nice to see a full range of colors in a DC movie.
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Seriously? It's 2016 and they have WW in a micro-mini-nano skirt?

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Broomstick wrote:Seriously? It's 2016 and they have WW in a micro-mini-nano skirt?

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While I enjoy a good "but it's current year" argument as much as the next internet geek, I would like to remind you 2004 called and Brad Pitt's micro-mini-nano skirt wasn't much longer.

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Broomstick wrote:Seriously? It's 2016 and they have WW in a micro-mini-nano skirt?

:::grump:::
While I enjoy a good "but it's current year" argument as much as the next internet geek, I would like to remind you 2004 called and Brad Pitt's micro-mini-nano skirt wasn't much longer.
Honestly, didn't watch that one.

Hey, I married a guy in a kilt, but fan service aside, there's a sort of minimum length for those sorts of things. Sure, there are cultures were everyone runs around with genitalia exposed, and old Scots types used to run into battle naked, but the Greco-Roman types were actually into protective armor that, you know, provided actual protection to bits of the anatomy.

Daisy Dukes would actually be a lot more practical for a fighting woman. Or man.
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WW being parked (at least partially) in WW1 is (I think) a new approach, Barry looks nothing like Barry, both his suit and Vic's body don't look so hot,my hood ears are too short once more, I have my usual problem with Vic being a Leaguer (to me he is and always will be a Titan no matter what DC says) and I was about to comment there's a certain Kryptonian missing from the roster...except that's as it should be, what him being dead for the time being :)
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Wonder Woman looks and sounds a lot better at this point, Justice League seems to be trying too hard to be "fun". Hope they do show a bit of why he's gathering a team and show some bad guys next trailer round.
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Crazedwraith wrote:I was talking JL before to clarify. But Wonder Woman looks okay, Not much story in that trailer but lots of asskicking. It's good to see they're keeping that up from her showing in BvS.

Maybe I'm over reading it but is anyone getting a weird MCU wannabe vibe from this? I mean is MoS/BvS are a rough equivilent of Iron Man. This is their Cap film. Taking place mainly in a historical setting. Hero in a patriotic costume and quite of bit of emphasis on her shield in the trailer there. Yes, I know that's a ridiculously tenuous connection to make but still...
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Broomstick wrote:Seriously? It's 2016 and they have WW in a micro-mini-nano skirt?

:::grump:::
Agreed.

I get they want to have the classic look, but if it were up to me, I'd be inclined to give her either historically accurate attire for a Greek warrior (with maybe some artistic licence taken), or fucking pants.
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Justice League stuff split to it's own thread

Something that was pointed out in Facebook: Whomever we see washed up on the beach (assuming Steve Trevor at this point) is wearing a Prussian Medal : The Order of the Pour le Merite. Later, we see him at an airfield, with a Fokker 3 behind him. He is most definitely wearing the uniform of a Prussian airman.

HOWEVER: we see him strafing the airfield later in the clip, and at the end he's got a Very British secretary. So, are we looking at an American spy helping MI6?

Also, in the train station clip, those are Ottoman troops milling around.
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Pine is probably a US spy of some sort. Having a hero on the side of the Central Powers might be a bit much for an American audience. :P
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Though if there's any war (pre-Vietnam, anyway) where neither side is generally felt to have been "the good guys", its WW1.
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LadyTevar wrote:Later, we see him at an airfield, with a Fokker 3 behind him.
It's a Fokker Eindecker E.III to be precise, which (assuming at least a bit of historical accuracy) pins it down to the middle years of WW1.
LadyTevar wrote:Also, in the train station clip, those are Ottoman troops milling around.
With British sailors in the foreground, and the station itself is very English, could be any time between 1900-1930 if you stretch it a bit.

Yes, something a bit skewed here; I never did read all that many DC comics, did their WW1 follow more or less the same course as our real one?
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I'm actually kind excited for this. It has a kind of Captain America crossed with Thor feel.

I do have one minor worry- isn't WW only a step down from Superman? That is to say do any of those guys she's carving up really pose anything like a threat to her? Great as the imagery of her standing there, shield high deflecting bullets is, couldn't she just sorta, stand there?
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Kojiro wrote:I'm actually kind excited for this. It has a kind of Captain America crossed with Thor feel.

I do have one minor worry- isn't WW only a step down from Superman? That is to say do any of those guys she's carving up really pose anything like a threat to her? Great as the imagery of her standing there, shield high deflecting bullets is, couldn't she just sorta, stand there?
That and its going to be hard to sympathize with her butchering a whole bunch of enemy soldiers who can't possibly hurt her.

Although... maybe she gets a power-up during the film?
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Well we do see her in the clip literally snap a rifle in half, so she's already vastly beyond human standards, though that's hardly an upper limit for her I expect. Certainly not for BvS WW who could hold Doomsday in check.

Either way, looks bad ass and I'm totally seeing it.
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As a frequent critic of Snyder's directing, I'm looking forward to both Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman as a first look at what a Snyder-less DCCU can do.

Plus Wonder Woman is finally getting a fucking movie, and Suicide Squad has more Batman plus Harley. :D
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Kojiro wrote:I do have one minor worry- isn't WW only a step down from Superman? That is to say do any of those guys she's carving up really pose anything like a threat to her? Great as the imagery of her standing there, shield high deflecting bullets is, couldn't she just sorta, stand there?
She's not bullet-proof. At least not in any continuity I'm aware of.
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Broomstick wrote:
Kojiro wrote:I do have one minor worry- isn't WW only a step down from Superman? That is to say do any of those guys she's carving up really pose anything like a threat to her? Great as the imagery of her standing there, shield high deflecting bullets is, couldn't she just sorta, stand there?
She's not bullet-proof. At least not in any continuity I'm aware of.
She has to be in the movie continuity - she was taking punches from Trollsday throughout the fight and all it did was tick her off. Bullets would be a flea bite compared to that.
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This is actually a common issue. Wonder Woman's durability is explicitly described as granting her tremendous resistance to blunt trauma, but reduced resistance to edged weapons, pointy things, and high-speed things.

So yes, she manages to be capable of taking a punch from Superman but needing to parry bullets, even though quite honestly Superman's fists can smash a tank while bullets don't even make a dent. The only explanation that really exists is that Wonder Woman's powers are magical and she is more resistant/vulnerable to certain threats than mere 'physics' would predict or even allow.
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SpottedKitty wrote:Yes, something a bit skewed here; I never did read all that many DC comics, did their WW1 follow more or less the same course as our real one?
As far as I'm aware DC WW1 is about the same as the real world one, although some of their earliest hero's would have fought in it it was almost always in their pre-hero days.

Although interestingly the only major WW1 DC character I can think of is Enemy Ace a German pilot. In modern stories he's normally shown as very moral and rather conflicted about the conflict. Generally it plays on the idea of the WW1 air war being a more noble pursuit compared to the butchery of the ground war. It would be interesting if he were to cameo in the movie.
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Bedlam wrote:Although interestingly the only major WW1 DC character I can think of is Enemy Ace a German pilot. In modern stories he's normally shown as very moral and rather conflicted about the conflict. Generally it plays on the idea of the WW1 air war being a more noble pursuit compared to the butchery of the ground war. It would be interesting if he were to cameo in the movie.
Ah, I recognise that name, although I couldn't remember if he was WW1 or WW2.

Heh, wouldn't it be a fun brain-melter if he is there, because the Steve Trevor and Enemy Ace characters have been mixed-and-(mis)matched into the same person...? :twisted: :roll: :wink:
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Batman wrote:WW being parked (at least partially) in WW1 is (I think) a new approach, Barry looks nothing like Barry, both his suit and Vic's body don't look so hot,my hood ears are too short once more
I prefer your ears short, actually. Like the way Jim Lee draws you. In fact, a lot of artists seem to draw you that way.
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