Nightmare on elm street movies

Shrykull · Post by **Shrykull** » 2003-08-26 01:40am

Yes, so I think many people will say that they are repetitive mostly, but I liked some plot elements from some of them like

1. Part three- the dream warriors, where the kids can be superbeings in thier dreams and fight freddy, I loved the wizard kid, wish we got more of him kicking freddy's ass, casting say lightning bolts and stuff against him like an AD&D mage. Or the strong kid, say if he could rip Freddy apart.

2. Part one how Nancy "kills" him by disbelief alone (or did she, remember at the end Freddy pulls her mom through the window?)

3. Freddy's dead part six, where it is these dream demons that give Freddy his power and that is why he can't be killed, except outside a dream

4. Part four where Joey thinks he is having a wet dream with the woman in the water in his waterbed, Freddy saying "How's this for a wet dream?"

5. They mentioned something in part 4 about the positive and negative gates, one of which Freddy guards.

What if instead of making them repetive where he gets killed every movie, they made each one part of the whole story, like the three movies or LOTR?

justifier · Post by **justifier** » 2003-08-26 02:34am

Thats because LOTR was writen by one person with a clear story arc, movies like NOES only get sequals if the previous movie did well, meaning no overall arc, and usually different directors/writers means no overall vision for the story

zombie84 · Post by **zombie84** » 2003-08-26 08:29am

I think part 2 was the most original, and also the most frightening of the sequels. Instead of having Freddy simply slash his way through a series of FX-ladden dreams before being sent back to hell, all the while spouting rediculous one-liners, the filmmakers remained true to the spirit of the first film. Freddy was still scary, he wasnt the clown-like comedian he became in the later sequels, and the plot was not just a rehash of the first film and even contained some interesting drama and character development as the kid is slowly possessed by Freddy.

What i hated about the Freddy franchise was that after part 3, he went more for laughs than scares. It was overexposer--everyone had grown accustumed to his face and the directors no longer hid him in shadows. Of course the only direction to go was tha comedy angle--he wasnt scary anymore so make him funny. The NOES series ended with part3 if you ask me--it tied up everything, brought back Heather Langencamp and provided a great climax, probably the bet of the sequels (no doubt due to Wes Cravens involvment in the writting. Freddy's Dead was pathetic--it was amusing and fun to watch, but considering where the series roots were, it was like watching Greedo shoot first.

Thats why I always favoured Friday the 13th--they were at least consistent and didnt rely on gimmicks. Just good, gory, no-frills mayhem.

zombie84 · Post by **zombie84** » 2003-08-26 08:30am

zombie84 wrote:I think part 2 was the most original, and also the most frightening of the sequels. Instead of having Freddy simply slash his way through a series of FX-ladden dreams before being sent back to hell, all the while spouting rediculous one-liners, the filmmakers remained true to the spirit of the first film. Freddy was still scary, he wasnt the clown-like comedian he became in the later sequels, and the plot was not just a rehash of the first film and even contained some interesting drama and character development as the kid is slowly possessed by Freddy.

What i hated about the Freddy franchise was that after part 3, he went more for laughs than scares. It was overexposure--everyone had grown accustumed to his face and the directors no longer hid him in shadows. Of course the only direction to go was tha comedy angle--he wasnt scary anymore so make him funny. The NOES series ended with part3 if you ask me--it tied up everything, brought back Heather Langencamp and provided a great climax, probably the bet of the sequels (no doubt due to Wes Cravens involvment in the writting. Freddy's Dead was pathetic--it was amusing and fun to watch, but considering where the series roots were, it was like watching Greedo shoot first.

Thats why I always favoured Friday the 13th--they were at least consistent and didnt rely on gimmicks. Just good, gory, no-frills mayhem.

zombie84 · Post by **zombie84** » 2003-08-26 08:31am

double post.