The Nazgul vs. Harry Potter

FaxModem1 · Post by **FaxModem1** » 2003-09-08 12:45am

Okay, through some twist of fate, Harry gets the one ring, and the nine are after him. The places:

1.Harry is dropped in the Shire

2.The Nazgul find themselves in the muggle world

3.The Nazgul find themselves at Hogwarts.

So, what happens in each scenario?

dworkin · Post by **dworkin** » 2003-09-08 12:56am

Hooray! I just found my happy thought!

FaxModem1 · Post by **FaxModem1** » 2003-09-08 01:01am

O....K.....

Are you wanting to see a 12 year old sliced up by black riders?

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2003-09-08 01:29am

Hogwarts gets pwned!

dworkin · Post by **dworkin** » 2003-09-08 01:45am

FaxModem1 wrote:O....K.....

Are you wanting to see a 12 year old sliced up by black riders?

Trampled underfoot more likely.
I know it would be wrong to say yes, but yes.

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2003-09-08 01:59am

Nazgul 0wnz0r n00b magelings. Potter go squishy.

El Moose Monstero · Post by **El Moose Monstero** » 2003-09-08 03:29am

Well, taking it mildly seriously, the killing curse seems to be a universal death spell, and since it was the enchanted blade that did in the Lord of the Nazgul, we can probably assume that HP magic will have a similar effect - note that because everyone seems to be a little unfussed about using Avada Kedavra whether they fight for good or evil, you only appear to need the power (rather than the anger as in Crucio in OOTP).

If the killing curse fails, theres always the old set them on fire routine, I'm sure he could do that. Failing that? Running would be the preffered option.

It's a big world out there, if he can learn to apparate, then he could piss them off forever.

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2003-09-08 03:59am

The_Lumberjack wrote:the killing curse seems to be a universal death spell, and since it was the enchanted blade that did in the Lord of the Nazgul, we can probably assume that HP magic will have a similar effect

This is rather specious logic. All magical things that kill stuff are the same?

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-09-08 05:53am

There's the Nazgul's fear aura thing, remember how Frodo basically fell in front of them and cowered?

Though I'd love to see the Witch King and the Nazgul slaughter that whole damn infernal school, Dumbledore would be interesting to see though.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-09-08 06:47am

"STUDENTS! STUDENTS, COME THIS-urgk..."

Smiling Bandit · Post by **Smiling Bandit** » 2003-09-08 08:26am

This is rather specious logic. All magical things that kill stuff are the same?

While I'm not sure it would work this time, usually this is what you have to assume with magic, or even super-science.

Death from the Sea · Post by **Death from the Sea** » 2003-09-08 10:39am

has a delicious thought of the children of Hogwarts all being killed in their sleep by the Nazgul

Majin Gojira · Post by **Majin Gojira** » 2003-09-08 11:01am

GrandAdmiralPrawn wrote:
The_Lumberjack wrote:the killing curse seems to be a universal death spell, and since it was the enchanted blade that did in the Lord of the Nazgul, we can probably assume that HP magic will have a similar effect
This is rather specious logic. All magical things that kill stuff are the same?

Also, aren't the Nazgul technically "Undead". I don't know how a "Killing Curse" would effect such a creature. (Never read Potter, so I don't know if it was ever used againt an undead creature).

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-09-08 11:24am

Majin Gojira wrote:
GrandAdmiralPrawn wrote:
The_Lumberjack wrote:the killing curse seems to be a universal death spell, and since it was the enchanted blade that did in the Lord of the Nazgul, we can probably assume that HP magic will have a similar effect
This is rather specious logic. All magical things that kill stuff are the same?
Also, aren't the Nazgul technically "Undead". I don't know how a "Killing Curse" would effect such a creature. (Never read Potter, so I don't know if it was ever used againt an undead creature).

It's a long time since I last read a Potter book - but doesn't Harry Potter know other damage-dealing spells than "killing curse"???

Gandalf wrote:Though I'd love to see the Witch King and the Nazgul slaughter that whole damn infernal school, Dumbledore would be interesting to see though.

Hmm... some people have noted that Gandalf and Dumbledore never have been seen together... also the fact that at the end of Lord of the Rings, Gandalf sails away in a ship... and strangely enough, it is said that one arrives first time at Hogwarts by water...

El Moose Monstero · Post by **El Moose Monstero** » 2003-09-08 11:41am

GrandAdmiralPrawn wrote:
The_Lumberjack wrote:the killing curse seems to be a universal death spell, and since it was the enchanted blade that did in the Lord of the Nazgul, we can probably assume that HP magic will have a similar effect
This is rather specious logic. All magical things that kill stuff are the same?

Yes, not great debating technique I admit, but the general gist was there, I actually meant that we have to assume that a killing curse in Potter will kill someone in Lord of the Rings (even though we have never seen any form of killing curse), but senor Johansen is right, if the Nazgul are undead, then nothing is going to happen. Might kill the horses though.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-09-08 12:39pm

Hey, maybe the Patronus will work on them. It works on their cheap Korean knock-offs, the Dementors.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-09-08 01:09pm

Gil Hamilton wrote:Hey, maybe the Patronus will work on them. It works on their cheap Korean knock-offs, the Dementors.

So, the Nazgul are the orginal Made in Mordor variety?

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-09-08 02:10pm

Stormbringer wrote:So, the Nazgul are the orginal Made in Mordor variety?

Indeed, the source of their power was forged by the fearsome skill of the leiutenant to the evilest being in the world. The Dementors magic powers were stitched together by a 12 year old witch in a windowless factory.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-09-08 02:12pm

Gil Hamilton wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:So, the Nazgul are the orginal Made in Mordor variety?
Indeed, the source of their power was forged by the fearsome skill of the leiutenant to the evilest being in the world. The Dementors magic powers were stitched together by a 12 year old witch in a windowless factory.

Buy Quality, Buy Mordor!

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2003-09-08 04:00pm

The_Lumberjack wrote:note that because everyone seems to be a little unfussed about using Avada Kedavra whether they fight for good or evil, you only appear to need the power (rather than the anger as in Crucio in OOTP).

The killing curse is a banned curse and it's only been the "evil side" that have used it, so you can hardly say using it is "unfussed about".

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2003-09-08 04:06pm

ANother potential question is whether Harry would be able to resist the power of The Ring?

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-09-08 05:28pm

2000AD wrote:ANother potential question is whether Harry would be able to resist the power of The Ring?

Fuck no! No human, no matter what their background, doesn't stand a chance against the Ring's power.

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2003-09-08 06:17pm

DPDarkPrimus wrote:
2000AD wrote:ANother potential question is whether Harry would be able to resist the power of The Ring?
Fuck no! No human, no matter what their background, doesn't stand a chance against the Ring's power.

So would Harry be able to use the Ring to help him somehow or is he still fucked?

Mark S · Post by **Mark S** » 2003-09-08 06:43pm

2000AD wrote:ANother potential question is whether Harry would be able to resist the power of The Ring?

Harry would be corrupted like anyone else. The only reason the Hobbits weren't as effected was because most of them really don't care about power at all. And even they become corrupted. Harry would use the ring to destroy Voldemort (cheap, Korean Darth Vader knock-off) and end up taking his place.

Smiling Bandit · Post by **Smiling Bandit** » 2003-09-08 08:34pm

So would Harry be able to use the Ring to help him somehow or is he still fucked?

Harry would be one of the worst persons to use the Ring. He might well be able to avoid being killed if he had it - its pretty obvious he really wants to get his way, and he is more Slytherin than he likes to believe. He'd become so evil so fast it look like Sauron found a new body.

But the Nazgul would probably accept him. If Harry ever met Sauron, he would lose, though.