So which other universe COULDN'T beat Star Trek?

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2002-07-15 02:41pm

I'll start. I'd say that Andy Griffith couldn't do it. I think Dukes of Hazzard would put the Confederate Smackdown (TM) though. Miami Vice might have some trouble, but I think they'd edge out the Federation in the long run.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-07-15 02:48pm

Heh seriously
Mostly Animas would loose but I'd love to see a Gundum VS Federation Fight

Darth_Shinji · Post by **Darth_Shinji** » 2002-07-15 05:44pm

Mr Bean wrote:Heh seriously
Mostly Animas would loose but I'd love to see a Gundum VS Federation Fight

You mean anime? Most would kick the ufp's butt. I know some anime that would give the 4 empire from weber fits. I would put most of anime between star-trek and wars in power.

A good one ufp would win against is movie MI and movie wing command.

Renewed_Valour1 · Post by **Renewed_Valour1** » 2002-07-15 09:15pm

Darth Jehovah wrote:I'll start. I'd say that Andy Griffith couldn't do it. I think Dukes of Hazzard would put the Confederate Smackdown (TM) though. Miami Vice might have some trouble, but I think they'd edge out the Federation in the long run.

Do you mean entire universe or factions in that universe? I can think of many factions that might lose to the UFP.

Needa · Post by **Needa** » 2002-07-15 09:16pm

Perhaps Stargate? I don't know that much about this serie.

MMMM it's a big may be, but Red shirts are gonna be slaughtered in ground combat.

David · Post by **David** » 2002-07-15 10:21pm

Stargate? O'neil would kill every member of SF single-handed.

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2002-07-16 01:21am

Nah Jackson would exstole the virtues of the federation and they would go kill the G'ould together.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2002-07-16 03:42am

I think the Saturnians in the old danish comicbook Rejsen Til Saturn (The Travel to Saturn) would have trouble defeating the federation.... they would definately not last a minute against the Dominion, the Romulans or (shock, horror) the Ferengi!!![/i]

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2002-07-16 04:10am

STARGATE LOSING TO UFP! *laughs until his heart explodes, and he can thus not post*

But seroiusly the goa'uld would crush the ufp with an iron boot that has a spar on it.weve seen there weps can generate 2.5 gigaton kabooms. thats far more than enough to kill a fed ship (equal to about 80 photorps) and the asgard are even more powerful, also put in the fact that O'Neal could kill all of ST with his P.40, 5 clips, and a couple of C-4s

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2002-07-16 03:50pm

Mr Roger's Neighborhood

Needa · Post by **Needa** » 2002-07-16 03:55pm

Of course, if the Nasgards are there, sure UFP as no chance.
G'oalud (sp?) technologie isn't my speciality, but how many pyramidal ship they have anyway? I will be interested to see their industrial capacity.

Aaron2 · Post by **Aaron2** » 2002-07-16 04:16pm

I'd bet on the Feds vs Jason of Star Command. Maybe even vs Battlestar Galactica (even though the Feds don't possess the awesome power of TURBO)

Oh, and they could possibly beat the Far Out Space Nuts.

Aaron

Doomriser · Post by **Doomriser** » 2002-07-16 11:07pm

The "Independence Day" aliens might have a hard time against Starfleet, but then again, they might be an even match...

CmdrWilkens · Post by **CmdrWilkens** » 2002-07-16 11:26pm

The movie MI probably couldn't do the job as they are the only troops ever with less tactical skill than the Feds. I mean seriously a ten foot spider is twenty feet away and you can't put rounds into its body with an automatic weapon that has virtually no recoil?

David · Post by **David** » 2002-07-16 11:43pm

I think Tellitubbies could give the ST universe a run for its money.

Skelron · Post by **Skelron** » 2002-07-16 11:50pm

The Care Bears? [Runs and hides]

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2002-07-17 07:27am

The freespace universe, only ship shields in it is nigh on invulnerable because of them!

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2002-07-17 07:55pm

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:STARGATE LOSING TO UFP! *laughs until his heart explodes, and he can thus not post*

But seroiusly the goa'uld would crush the ufp with an iron boot that has a spar on it.weve seen there weps can generate 2.5 gigaton kabooms. thats far more than enough to kill a fed ship (equal to about 80 photorps) and the asgard are even more powerful, also put in the fact that O'Neal could kill all of ST with his P.40, 5 clips, and a couple of C-4s

2.5 GT? Interesting....what episode was that? Which character gave that number?

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-07-18 08:31am

The 2.5 gigaton weapons was actually a device Anubis got himself which transferred energy into a remote stargate until eventually it explodes with the force of a 2.5 Gigaton blast, destroying a big chunk of the target planet and rendering it uninhabitable, carter says it in the first episode of seson 6 (Redemption)

The largest Goa'uld ship that has been seen is Apophis' battleship, which was several kilometers long, The main ships they use are Ha'tac ships, about a kilometer, with a crew of 1000, plus space for about another 10,000 if needed. They have sheilds capable of surviving blasts from one gigaton nuclear weapons with no effect other than a slight shake, And are each capable of launching a Legion of two man fighters, going by the size of a roman legion, the closest thing, this puts it at around 5000 def-gliders per ship.

Recently Anubis has upgraded the sheilds and weapons of his ships to be able to survive multiple attacks from an asguard mothership (Revalations), though it did seem to take two ships to destroy one asguard mothership.

The good news for the feds is that The System Lords (goa'uld ruling council) are perpetually fueding against each other which hampers their industrial output. That said the system lords are capable of sparing a fleet of 200 Ha'tac to deal with anyone who annoys them, There are also rogue Goa'uld such as Sokar, and later apophis (after O'neill and turned him over to Sokar) whose power matches that of the system lords, or at least enough for them to be confident of overthrowing the system lords.

Also someone claimed that the staff weapon they give to Jaffa is the most powerful weapon the Goa'uld have, this is not true they also have developed a weapon Called a TER (Transphase eradication rod, fantastic name, it could have been named by data) which higlights and destroys phase shifted objects, So much for the trekkie phase cloak. Also all of Apophis' ships were fitted with cloaking devices, though we never saw them fire when cloaked, so presumably they can't. We have also seen a type of planetery sheild designede for filtering out high end radiation and making planets inhabitable, This would probably be able to prevent fed transporters working, [i can see it now, Feds beam down, with an away team consisting of three major characters and two redtops, Redshirts get it instantly main characters get implanted with Goa'uld symbiotes, the goa'uld know how virtually all fed tech works, the sheild is lowered again, the feds beam main characters back up, main characters set self destruct on fed ship...]

Kosh_The_Vorlon · Post by **Kosh_The_Vorlon** » 2002-07-18 01:51pm

Crazy_Vasey wrote:The freespace universe, only ship shields in it is nigh on invulnerable because of them!

IIRC, we've seen FS ships putting out Gigaton-level beam blasts, which is far more than any Fed ship can handle.....Then again, there's that annoying allergy that FS armor has to large rocks

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So which other universe COULDN'T beat Star Trek?

So which other universe COULDN'T beat Star Trek?

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