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Renewed_Valour1 · Post by **Renewed_Valour1** » 2002-10-16 03:35pm

Skelron wrote: Unsure on the Commonwealth, they might have the power, but do they have the will do too what is necersary?

The Commonwealth will do what they feel is needed when they are pushed. In this case they'll most likely push along the Feds and ISA. My personal bet is that they'll seal the wormholes if they can.

A quick note just because two people are dictators doesn't mean they'll get along. Stalin and Hitler had a peace of convenience and we know how long that lasted.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-10-16 03:46pm

Invalid parallel they had clearly opposing political views however that's not the case with the two Empires as said before their interests don't conflict, it's more like Hitler and Mussolini.

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2002-10-16 04:53pm

second attempt at image of a mars battlecruiser

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2002-10-16 04:57pm

second attempt at the image of a Chaos cruiser

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2002-10-16 11:32pm

The Commonwealth will do what they feel is needed when they are pushed. In this case they'll most likely push along the Feds and ISA. My personal bet is that they'll seal the wormholes if they can.

you mean using people as cannon fodder seems rather ruthless for the commonwealth

Skelron · Post by **Skelron** » 2002-10-17 11:10am

By what is neccersary I mean will they be prepared to wipe out ALL Life on a teaming world not allowing ANYONE to escape as they did it, no one to be evacuated because you can't be sure they don't carry the taint with them. Thats right will they kill thousands upon millions to wipe out a chaos taint, or a Genestealer taint... if nnot then they arn't prepared to do what is neccersary, it's that simple in the 40K universe Exterminus is a legitimate tactic unquestioned in it's inclusion in military usage, when the order goes out no captain, no matter how humane, he was questions the need for it, it is enough the order came through.

Renewed_Valour1 · Post by **Renewed_Valour1** » 2002-10-17 06:32pm

Skelron wrote:By what is neccersary I mean will they be prepared to wipe out ALL Life on a teaming world not allowing ANYONE to escape as they did it, no one to be evacuated because you can't be sure they don't carry the taint with them.

One doesn’t tend to keep thousands (most likely more) of solar system killing bombs around if you don’t feel a need for them in some potential future situation. They’d most likely quarantine off a planet the first time they encountered it and combat it before taking more drastic routes.

Skelron wrote:Thats right will they kill thousands upon millions to wipe out a chaos taint, or a Genestealer taint... .

What is a chaos or genestealer taint?

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-10-17 06:36pm

What is a chaos or genestealer taint?

"Taint" refers to those that have fallen to Chaos or the Tyranids, Basicly similar to a virus except the Tyranid genestealers are highly intellegent and polymorphic and the Chaos taint is through the Warp which one must block with powerful Psyhonic shields

Think "Zerg but a whole lot fucking smarter" for Tyranid Genestealers
And Instant Tratiors for the Chaos Faction normaly ending with a great deal of Violent action

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2002-10-17 09:22pm

I wonder how the commonwealth would deal with the greater deamons of chaos like the lord of Change and the Bloodthirster

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-10-17 09:36pm

Question: What is the Exterminus?

Statement: If anyone on this board had ever heard of the Principality of Zan, it would be awesome to throw in.

250 klick battlecruisers form the backbone of their fleet, each one carries 1,000s of snubfighters and 100 fighters a klick long...

Undoubtly, the IoM and the Principality would join together, since the IoM hate chaos and the Imperator of the Principality is logic and reason given human form(literally). I can't help but imagine that Palpy would have no choice but to join with the Princips and the IoM.

And the Commonwealth? Imagine their surprise when their ships are destroyed...by warcruisers in another star system. Gotta love hyperlight negative missles, warp-plasma cannons, and pulse antimatter point defense guns...that can hit targets the size of a TIE Fighter.

I'd think the Imperator would consider the entire Tyranid swarm/horde/thingy one massive Greyfleet. And we(I, anyway) all know how the Imperator feels about Greyfleets.

Oh, it would be a glorious battle. And if the IoM or the Empire turned traitor? Space marines got nothing on the Iron Legions.

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2002-10-18 07:02pm

let's us just use the current factions, they can already start a massive explosion of Chaos and death

I wonder can a GHC defeat a Mars Battlecrusier or any other Warhammar 40K ship

Skelron · Post by **Skelron** » 2002-10-22 08:52am

Cyril wrote:Question: What is the Exterminus?.

Exterminus, the Catch all term/codeword for the Extermination of all life on a Planet. It can take many different forms, ranging from a Plantary Virus that wipes out all life on a planet... (And I mean all life) before turning in onself and devouring itself down to single molecule whatever, To a Planetary Bombardment that will destroy the planet. Whatever really is avaible to the Sector Fleet. Many people within the Imperium have the power to call such a measure down on a Planet, including of course the dreaded Inquistor's once the order has been given, and it has been verified that the order comes from a legitimate source. The order cannot be countermanded except by a higher source obviously, and is rarely countermanded, since the person given the order is usually assumed to have a reason, it is the Death of a Planet.

Taint, and Genestealers. Stealer's are the first wave of the Nid's they advance before the Hivefleet, and where first encountered by the Imperium long before the first Hive Fleets entered our Galaxy. They operate by, Infecting the Local Genepool, making normal people into carriers of the Stealer Genetic Code. (The Code being Located in the Reproductive organs only.) and and the same time setting up a Psychic link to the Victums, turning them into devoted servants of the Stealer Patriarch, they want to go out and breed. The Offspring of people infected by a Purestrain Stealer, are mostly Stealer, but have partly the DNA of the host species, over time until the 4th Generation the offspring become more and more like the host Species, the Third Generation able to pass in the host species as a member with a few genetic oddities. The 4th Generation is a mix either Pure Strain Stealers or Pure Strain Host are born. All fanatically devoted to the Patriarch, who is gaining power by the size of his 'Family'. These 'cults' hide among the population at first they set themselves up as a small religious community that wishes isolation to reflect on... whatever, when the numbers have grown large enough they move into the community at large, and start to perminate society, the aim is to gain control, or access to the defence forces, and the rulership of a Planet. When one of three factors arises the 'Family' willl rise up, The First being being discovered, the second being the Hive Fleet approaches, and damage to the local defences now will aid the Nid's invasion. The Last being when they are the dominant power on the Planet and will win, when this occurs they rise up, and when they take control the Hive Fleet is informed and detour's to the Planet. The Non Pure Strain Stealwer's will be devoured by the Nid's and redesigned, the PureStrains may not be.

Vhaos Taint. The Planet has Chaos Cults... VERY VERY Bad.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-10-23 02:46am

Skelron wrote:Exterminus, the Catch all term/codeword for the Extermination of all life on a Planet. It can take many different forms, ranging from a Plantary Virus that wipes out all life on a planet... (And I mean all life) before turning in onself and devouring itself down to single molecule whatever, To a Planetary Bombardment that will destroy the planet.

You mean as in a BDZ like operation or fragmentation shattering or what?

Neko_Oni · Post by **Neko_Oni** » 2002-10-23 03:09am

I would assume that normally Imperial ships would only blast the surface of the planet clean. There's really no need (normally) to fragment the whole planet, that whould elminate the offending group.