nBSG Episode 319: "Crossroads, Part II"...

tim31 · Post by **tim31** » 2007-03-27 01:40pm

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General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2007-03-27 02:02pm

phongn wrote:
Vympel wrote:I liked the episode- it was MindFuck, but it was a good watch. I'm not convinced that Tory, Anders, Tigh and Tyrol are Cylons, and I think it'll be stupid if they are, but in any event, I really liked the way it ended with the zoomout and the zoom-in to Earth.
ROT13'ed Confirm-or-Deny:
Bu, gurl ner vaqrrq sbhe bs gur svany svir Plybaf. Gurl ner, ubjrire, fvtavsvpnagyl qvssrerag guna gur bgure frira.

That was fairly obvious in the way it was implied in the episode. But the obvious question is who's the last one. It's really between Baltar and Starbuck. . .that I can tell. Though if it is Baltar it'd be curious why he didn't react in the same way as the other four.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2007-03-27 02:05pm

Would Googling ROT13 kill anyone of you lot? Really!

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2007-03-27 02:09pm

phongn wrote:Would Googling ROT13 kill anyone of you lot? Really!

I dunno. Would using proper English kill you?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2007-03-27 02:26pm

That would require me to have an idea of what ROT13 was in the first place.

Jesus, that was said plain as day by Moore in the interview I posted back on page 10, which I didn't even spoilerise. You could have at least shrunk it.

This board needs spoiler tags...

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2007-03-27 02:31pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:That would require me to have an idea of what ROT13 was in the first place.

Jesus, that was said plain as day by Moore in the interview I posted back on page 10, which I didn't even spoilerise. You could have at least shrunk it.

This board needs spoiler tags...

Meh, I've been ignoring this thread until I saw the episode specifically to avoid spoilers, so I didn't see the article. So if anyone else finds em, too bad.

Johnathon_Chance · Post by **Johnathon_Chance** » 2007-03-27 02:46pm

Is it me, or does it seem that they end every season with the cylons going after them? I dont know about y'all, but my wife and I were definatley sitting on the edge of the seat when the music was playing and the four of them wound up in the same room and we were sitting there saying No F***ing way! Was taht a jimmy hendrix tune? I didnt catch enough of it.

BTW when I saw the ep where starbuck went poof, I said, she'll be back. Yep there she is! Its fun to watch, because some of it is predictable, and yet, just when you thought I knew it, something else happens.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2007-03-27 03:00pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Jesus, that was said plain as day by Moore in the interview I posted back on page 10, which I didn't even spoilerise. You could have at least shrunk it.

I don't like shrinking spoilers because it doesn't work if someone browses at a minimum font-size (I used to do it when I was mod of G&C). ROT13 is guaranteed safe, if only because nobody I know can read it

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2007-03-27 03:17pm

Johnathon_Chance wrote:Was taht a jimmy hendrix tune? I didnt catch enough of it.

It was "All Along the Watchtower," written by Bob Dylan and famously covered by The Jimi Hendrix Experience.

Thag · Post by **Thag** » 2007-03-27 07:09pm

Something I thought of when the song was playing: does the fact that the four of them can understand the song mean that Colonialspeak = English, or would it just be instant translation by the Cylon head gadgets?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2007-03-27 08:11pm

The whole status of language in nBSG is almost impossible to rectify or determine, so I'm betting that like in most sci-fi, it's just an issue that they'll totally dodge.

On a couple of different notes:

1. I can't imagine Cally's going to be happy hearing about Tyrol's status as a Cylon.

2. Anybody else get the impression that Tory was just sort of copy-catting what Tigh was doing when they returned to the bridge, perhaps simply out of a lack of knowing what else to do?

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2007-03-27 08:18pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:2. Anybody else get the impression that Tory was just sort of copy-catting what Tigh was doing when they returned to the bridge, perhaps simply out of a lack of knowing what else to do?

Well, I can't fault her. It's a huge thing to have dropped in your lap at a time like this. But Tigh was there, being brave in the face of it, doing what he had to do. Sometimes it's easier to be strong when you can spot someone else being strong.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2007-03-27 08:26pm

Thag wrote:Something I thought of when the song was playing: does the fact that the four of them can understand the song mean that Colonialspeak = English, or would it just be instant translation by the Cylon head gadgets?

The characters were just humming the tune, not singing the lyrics.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2007-03-27 08:30pm

RedImperator wrote:
Thag wrote:Something I thought of when the song was playing: does the fact that the four of them can understand the song mean that Colonialspeak = English, or would it just be instant translation by the Cylon head gadgets?
The characters were just humming the tune, not singing the lyrics.

I swear a few of them were quoting parts of lyrics from the song.

Didn't Tigh, in particular, say "there must be some kind of way out of here"?

McC · Post by **McC** » 2007-03-27 08:36pm

They all quoted pieces of the lyrics at one point, yes.

NeoGoomba · Post by **NeoGoomba** » 2007-03-27 08:41pm

I wonder if the four of them haven't always been part of the five, instead being chosen for some kind of "download" or something that took place when the fleet-wide blackout happened. Something that will happen later, as they didn't have any sort of personality shift or anything once they identified themselves as "cylons". Maybe they were chosen as avatars of a sort for the Five?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2007-03-27 08:42pm

Ghetto Edit: Remove "kind," since I don't know the words.

Some info regarding "The Music" from Bear McCreary, the series composer's blog:

http://www.bearmccreary.com/html/blog/blogmain.htm

Which is summed up in this comment from the Battlestar Wiki:

The song is not intended to indicate that the Colonials have picked up an Earth communication.[2] Series executive producer Ron D. Moore considers the song to be an invention created by a Colonial citizen in a curious parallel to what had or will develop on Earth. The series creators have intentionally avoided citing whether Battlestar Galactica occurs in the real-world Earth's past, present, or future.

http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/All_A ... Watchtower (NOTE: BSW's bandwidth has been grinding to fuck the past few days since the finale.)

Kane Starkiller · Post by **Kane Starkiller** » 2007-03-27 08:45pm

Not only do the colonials seem to speak english but they use latin lettering including the big fat GALACTICA tag on the ship. Then there is the fact that their clock have 60 minute division, they wear ties, have cats etc. etc.
I wonder can there be any other logical conclusion other than Earth being the actual homeworld of human race.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2007-03-27 08:58pm

Kane Starkiller wrote:I wonder can there be any other logical conclusion other than Earth being the actual homeworld of human race.

Alternate universe in which humanity really did have extraterrestrial origins.

Either that, or Ron Moore eats his words, because he's said more than once that one of the key things he wanted to keep from the BSG1978 series was the idea that "life here began out there".

Should be interesting to see what happens, although I know there's a few guys on this here forum who would kick and scream and cry if Ron Moore went with the alternate universe route.

they use latin lettering including the big fat GALACTICA tag on the ship. Then there is the fact that their clock have 60 minute division, they wear ties, have cats etc. etc.

If Ron Moore is willing to suggest that the Colonials, by sheer coincidence, composed a song identical to one created on Earth, then the notion that the Colonials might also coincidentally use 60 minute hours and wear ties is not far behind.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2007-03-27 09:51pm

Guys the way things are looking now, I don't think we're ever going to get talking Centurions.

That makes me sad. If you asked me if there was one thing I thought the show was missing, it'd be that...

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2007-03-27 10:58pm

Sam Or I wrote:My big question is: Cally is a whore?

Seriously though, I think I called the Star-b-Kenobi back in the Maelstrom thread.

That's nothing. I called the "Saul the Cylon" bit back in the Temple.

The best part of the episode, for me, was when Baltar realized his lawyers were abandoning him.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2007-03-27 11:21pm

Well great, thanks Ron, now I've got that song stuck in my head.

Trytostaydead · Post by **Trytostaydead** » 2007-03-28 12:17am

So who was it that said Katee sackhoff's contract ended?

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2007-03-28 03:39am

I found this to be an interesting end to the season. At several points throughout season three I felt like abandoning this show, but I think the last three episodes were good enough to restore my faith in this show for another season.

I think it would have been cooler to have some big 'splosions and dogfights though.

Braedley · Post by **Braedley** » 2007-03-28 03:58am

Oh, it looks like we'll get one for the season premier.

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