ID4 Mothership vs. SSD

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-01-03 03:35am

Why was the USAF equipped with Hornets?

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2003-01-03 04:52am

That was actually the obvious one, a lot of my friends from my course (and as you might imagine we are all aircraft enthusiasts) are aviation nuts! They started ripping into squadron designations and other discrepancies

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2003-01-03 04:56pm

Crown wrote:That was actually the obvious one, a lot of my friends from my course (and as you might imagine we are all aircraft enthusiasts) are aviation nuts! They started ripping into squadron designations and other discrepancies

Details man! Details!

Necro99 · Post by **Necro99** » 2003-01-03 08:20pm

I will explain my thoughs in two pictures.
This is to scale.

ID4 Mothership

Death Star

I think the SSD would get POUNDED out of this world.

Necro99 · Post by **Necro99** » 2003-01-03 08:22pm

http://members.fortunecity.com/zardalu/id4mom.htm

Above are schematics of the colossal Mothership from the movie ID4. Each pixel in the image equals about 4 square kilometers (2km to a side). I have portrayed the Mothership as being roughly 800km long. Although there do not seem to be any reliable sources for this length, I was able to come to this conclusion in two ways:

1.) During the movie, it is stated that the ship is approximately 550km in diameter. From observations of photgraphs of the ship, we know it to be oblong in shape and therefor this measurement must be of one axis or the other.

2.) Upon observation of numerous images of the underside of the mothership we can infer from the known size of the city destroyers (24km dia.) that the longer axis would probably come to the length of roughly 800km, while the shorter axis does indeed come to approximately 550km. This keeps in line with the dimensions stated in the movie.

The movie also goes on to say that the ship has a mass of roughly one 4th the size of the moon, which seemed unlikely to me until my wife suggested a hull created from some incredibly dense material, which makes sense and would protect the vessel from interstellar debris and radiation.

The ship is at least partially hollow, much of the inside comprising of a vast cavern, a gargantuan open area tens of thousands of cubic kilometers in volume that seems to maintain a misty internal atmosphere. Gigantic towers of unstated purpose seem to span the entire height of the chamber at random intervals.

Up to 83 City Destoyers nest in large ports on the underside of the vessel until they are called for. The crew or population of the Mothership is not stated, but presumably ranges within the millions, as does probably the total number of auxillary and/or small fighter craft aboard.

Millions of fighter. 'Nuff said.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-01-03 08:29pm

I won't be that sure, Necro. First, the mtohership doesn't seem to have shields. Second, SSD turbolasers would blast huge chunks out of the mothership. And lastly, the SSD may be able to ram the mothership and still survive.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-01-03 08:55pm

Necro99 wrote:Millions of fighter. 'Nuff said.

Since pictures and a large number of weak fighters do not make an argument, no, it isn't enough said.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2003-01-03 09:09pm

An SSD would OWN an ID4 mothership. I don't care how big the POS is, it can't take teraton level damage. If I'm not mistaken it was dropped by a man-made nuke!

Fighters would be utterly useless. They're blasts would harmlessy bounce of the SSDs surface. And then in one enourmous wave of energy, they would wipe out probably most of 'em.

Hell, I wouldn't be suprised if the SSD did what the mothership did to the satelites-plowed right through it. I'd bet its shields were tough enough.

Jadeite · Post by **Jadeite** » 2003-01-03 09:11pm

I think the SSD would get POUNDED out of this world.

*Hides in a flame-proof bunker to wait out the firestorm*

Admiral Drason · Post by **Admiral Drason** » 2003-01-03 09:16pm

Necro as Yoda says "Size matters not."

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2003-01-05 02:47am

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:An SSD would OWN an ID4 mothership. I don't care how big the POS is, it can't take teraton level damage. If I'm not mistaken it was dropped by a man-made nuke!

The nuke alone could not have possibly caused an explosion THAT big. The nuke obviously set off its reactor(s).

That being said, I agree that the SSD would own the ID4 mothership in short order as long as it doesn't launch any fighters. The unshielded TIE fighters (note: I'm not saying that all tie fighters are unshielded, so nobody better put any words in my mouth or theres gonna be an asskicking coming their way.

) would be slaughtered.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-01-05 03:11am

Vertigo1 wrote:
Darth Garden Gnome wrote:An SSD would OWN an ID4 mothership. I don't care how big the POS is, it can't take teraton level damage. If I'm not mistaken it was dropped by a man-made nuke!
The nuke alone could not have possibly caused an explosion THAT big. The nuke obviously set off its reactor(s).

That being said, I agree that the SSD would own the ID4 mothership in short order as long as it doesn't launch any fighters. The unshielded TIE fighters (note: I'm not saying that all tie fighters are unshielded, so nobody better put any words in my mouth or theres gonna be an asskicking coming their way. ) would be slaughtered.

Basic TIE's have taken kiloton level hits and kept flying with minor damage. ID4 fighters are throwing around moderate sized mortar shells.

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ID4 Mothership vs. SSD

aiight, who be it?