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Hehehehhe. Blackadder. Never gets old.Dartzap wrote:I really did enjoy it, and i got all the references as well, which shows I'm clever.. right?Anyway, why didn't the Psychic paper not work on Billy?
Oh, I was also very disappointed that no-one kicked him in the nadgers to punish him for 500 years of children falling asleep in class.
Bad Wolf was almost universal, not matter what setting, Torchwood was in contemporary Earth since the 19th century and Mr. Saxon is firmly set in early 21st century Britain; isn't it obvious?Lord Woodlouse wrote: Saxon is pretty much the season arc. Bad Wolf and Torchwood had their references, I'd be surprised if Saxon lacked one in some sense.
As far as I can tell something like this has not happened before. Has it?The Doctor himself clearly said the Elizabeth thing was to do with being a time traveller, basically saying he must have done something in the future.
Things that "The Unquiet Dead" and "The Shakespeare Code" have in common:...and this episode felt nothing like The Unquiet Dead to me. If nothing else this episode was MUCH funnier than that ep. Besides being about an author in the past it felt totally different.
Yup, it is.Dartzap wrote:Edit: Freedonia. I'm pretty sure that was the shithole that the Marx brothers frolicked around with in Duck Soup...
Yes, thank you so very much for your wisdom. The point is that it's the season arc, and the previous season arcs were shoehorned into every episode some way or another. I know perfectly well that Saxon would be harder to shoehorn into an old episode than the other two but I'm still curious to see if they tried. Stop being such a pretentious dick about it.Big Orange wrote:Bad Wolf was almost universal, not matter what setting, Torchwood was in contemporary Earth since the 19th century and Mr. Saxon is firmly set in early 21st century Britain; isn't it obvious?Lord Woodlouse wrote: Saxon is pretty much the season arc. Bad Wolf and Torchwood had their references, I'd be surprised if Saxon lacked one in some sense.
No idea. But it's not especially groundbreaking even if it has, and it's definitely no major mystery since the Doctor pretty much told us what was going on for our benefit.As far as I can tell something like this has not happened before. Has it?
I think the flavour of Victorian England and Elizabethan England is rather different.
Things that "The Unquiet Dead" and "The Shakespeare Code" have in common:
* Old English setting.
A minor plot point, but the Gelth were not banished. They suffered because of the conflict between Time Lords and Daleks. They became physically weaker because they were some kind of "higher life form".* Said spectral monsters banished by ancient conflict.
Shakespeare and Dickens. Different people. This IS a time travelling show, afterall. It's a bit like you criticising each episode of Primeval because "it has dinosaurs in it again".* Important historical figure that the main characters brush shoulders with.
It has. Seventh Doctor episode BattlefieldBig Orange wrote:As far as I can tell something like this has not happened before. Has it?The Doctor himself clearly said the Elizabeth thing was to do with being a time traveller, basically saying he must have done something in the future.
OK, I didn't mean to be so blunt or condescending, what I really meant was that the Mr. Saxon story arch and references seem to be firmly rooted in near present day Britain, so this sub-plot would likely come to a head in 2008/9 London where Mr. Saxon would be elected as the next PM or something (and he would likely be a villain of sorts). I didn't mean to sound so smug and vindictive; who do you think I am? brianeyci?Lord Woodlouse wrote: Yes, thank you so very much for your wisdom. The point is that it's the season arc, and the previous season arcs were shoehorned into every episode some way or another. I know perfectly well that Saxon would be harder to shoehorn into an old episode than the other two but I'm still curious to see if they tried. Stop being such a pretentious dick about it.
Well this is a good opportunity for a future episode and the Doctor has a persistant habit of upsetting irrational queens, but it was silly that a 14th century English arrow could embed itself within the doors of the TARDIS when it could supposedly passively defend itself from all forms of attack (but the exterior is an illusion anyway).No idea. But it's not especially groundbreaking even if it has, and it's definitely no major mystery since the Doctor pretty much told us what was going on for our benefit.
It was a lot less formal than Victorian England and the Doctor did not seem to so bothered about blending in (with bystanders taking notice abouth Martha's very exotic looks and dress). Elizabethan England was a lot more rustic, un-PC and shitty than the England in the mostly shite Robin Hood.I think the flavour of Victorian England and Elizabethan England is rather different.
But the Gelth were fully entombed within the Cardiff Rift, unable to enter the mainstream Universe (not unlike those witch like creatures that were entombed by the Eternals).A minor plot point, but the Gelth were not banished. They suffered because of the conflict between Time Lords and Daleks. They became physically weaker because they were some kind of "higher life form".
Well Doctor Who is a lot more varied than other more formulaic sci-fi franchises such as 90% of Stargate and Star Trek; I find it odd that the current run of Doctor Who (according to fan complaints) is supposedly too fixated on Earth (when in this series alone we've visited the Moon and the upcoming episode is going to set on an alien planet in a alien galaxy, located at the far side of the known Universe, which is as alien as it could be).Shakespeare and Dickens. Different people. This IS a time travelling show, afterall. It's a bit like you criticising each episode of Primeval because "it has dinosaurs in it again".
They are quite different episodes, despite the many mild similarities, but so far most of the recent Doctor Who could be placed into different categories or themes.There are some basic similarities between the episodes, yes. But the feel of the episodes was, to me, incredibly different. The Unquiet Dead struck me as an episode designed to be a little scary, the Shakespeare Code struck me as a full-on comedy episode.
I don't know which bothers me more. That that's wrong, or that you confused it with Torchwood. The Gelth were coming from somewhere else in the universe. That was 'Abaddon.'Big Orange wrote:But the Gelth were fully entombed within the Cardiff Rift, unable to enter the mainstream Universe (not unlike those witch like creatures that were entombed by the Eternals).
I'm sorry, but wasn't the Rift that was featured in "The Unquiet Dead" and "Boomtown" the same Rift that predominates Torchwood? It makes sense that the Rift can lead anywhere else and it also has a link to the Void where "Abaddon" the one mile tall demon lurked.NecronLord wrote:I don't know which bothers me more. That that's wrong, or that you confused it with Torchwood. The Gelth were coming from somewhere else in the universe. That was 'Abaddon.'Big Orange wrote:But the Gelth were fully entombed within the Cardiff Rift, unable to enter the mainstream Universe (not unlike those witch like creatures that were entombed by the Eternals).
Humm. How long until you get sick of New Yorks, I wonder...Vympel wrote:Thank god for New New York next episode.
