Covenant (Halo) Vs Orks Vs Chaos Space Marines

[Shroom Man 777]

CSMs see the cultists get fucked by the Flood and start putting on their helmets. Or Flood thinggies try leaping on a Nurgle Plague Marine, pops one of the Plague Marine's zits, and gets melted with Papa Nurgle's Special Acne Puss-Acid.

As for Orkz, Flood takes over the nervous systems, rite? Well, do Orks even have nervous systems (as in, they're fungus!)? Hell, if an Ork thinks that little pissy Flood runt can't do shit to it, there's a chance that the Flood won't do shit to the Ork. Just because the Ork thinks so.

If that Halo Sergeant guy can't get infected by the Flood because he's a Badass Black Man, then the Orks are probably gonna stick Flood organisms on barbecue sticks and roast 'em for food.

[Decue]

If that Halo Sergeant guy can't get infected by the Flood because he's a Badass Black Man.

Technicly, it's because he's a Spartan I, but that is only implied so it may well be his badassness.

[Teleros]

As for Orkz, Flood takes over the nervous systems, rite? Well, do Orks even have nervous systems (as in, they're fungus!)? Hell, if an Ork thinks that little pissy Flood runt can't do shit to it, there's a chance that the Flood won't do shit to the Ork. Just because the Ork thinks so.

Up to a point - little pissy Guardsmen manage to nail orks often enough after all.

[Lord Revan]

IIRC Sargeant Jonhson's immunity to the flood was officially explained as some nerve system fucking radiation disease?

if this is possible, then chaos mutation could cause immunity also.

[Decue]

IIRC Sargeant Jonhson's immunity to the flood was officially explained as some nerve system fucking radiation disease?

Yeah, the "Boren's Syndrome", it is implied in the Halo Graphic Novel that the syndrome is a ONI fabrication to conceal Spartan I's.

[Lord Revan]

IIRC Sargeant Jonhson's immunity to the flood was officially explained as some nerve system fucking radiation disease?

Yeah, the "Boren's Syndrome", it is implied in the Halo Graphic Novel that the syndrome is a ONI fabrication to conceal Spartan I's.

either way, if relativly minor nerve damage/modification (Johnson seem to able do his duties without any major difficulty) would turn a human immune to the flood, the chaos induced mutation should do so too.

[Sidewinder]

CSMs see the cultists get fucked by the Flood and start putting on their helmets. Or Flood thinggies try leaping on a Nurgle Plague Marine, pops one of the Plague Marine's zits, and gets melted with Papa Nurgle's Special Acne Puss-Acid.

That makes me wonder... If a Flood infection form actually gets a hold of a Chaos Space Marine, will it end up being another vector through which the Chaos gods may influence the galaxy, i.e., the Chaos Space Marine and his gods force their will over the Gravemind and control the Flood? Will a Plague Marine accept the infection form as a gift from Nurgle, and the Flood can infiltrate the Chaos ranks in this manner? Who has the stronger will?

[Sidewinder]

I'm not positive that this a failure state for the Chaos Gods. At the very least, it would stop them pesky Necrons, wouldn't it? ;D

The chaos gods are fuelled by the emotions of sapient life. If it really destroyed all organics galaxy wide, it would kill them utterly.

The Necrons and their masters, on the other hand, will be inconvinienced (nothing to rule, unless they create more sapient species for the role), but will survive it.

Do you think a WH40K warship's void shields (or whatever they're called) can resist the firing of a Halo's main weapon? If yes, then there are potentially millions of sentient beings capable of surviving the sterilization procedure.

[[R_H]]

Do you think a WH40K warship's void shields (or whatever they're called) can resist the firing of a Halo's main weapon? If yes, then there are potentially millions of sentient beings capable of surviving the sterilization procedure.

I don't think we have enough information on the workings of the Halo weapons to come to a conclusion whether or not void shields would resist the weapon. However, in Ghosts of Onyx it's implied that there are safe havens that shelter against the effect of the weapon. But it's not revealed how the installation shelters against a Halo weapon.

[white_rabbit]

Will a Plague Marine accept the infection form as a gift from Nurgle, and the Flood can infiltrate the Chaos ranks in this manner? Who has the stronger will?

I would honestly question whether or not your Average Plague marine has enough of a conventional human nervous system left.

I feel it more likely the infection for sticks the needle in, tries to insert itself into a body cavity then gets eaten by the Plague marines gall bladder or something

Given all the ridiculous stuff the Tyranids can do when it comes to this sort of thing, I'm guessing they'd overrun the Flood and harvest them

Xenology indicates that Nid organisms have a baby ripper inside them, so its a question of who wins, gas bag or homicidal tapeworm

Marines have that sus-an membrane or something that can let them survive in a vacuum for short periods IIRC.

As the name indicates, thats a way of entering suspended animation. Uriel Ventris uses a connected ability to temporarily slow/shut his heart down to avoid detection at one point, but its not designed to let them survive vacumn.

Marine armour can recycle oxygen in conjunction with the enhancements and cybernetics, (Sarpedon rips out the rebreather implants of a certain "rebel" before slinging him out of the airlock in Souldrinkers for example)so a marine can survive temporarily in vacumn without debilitating effects that a human might suffer (theres an eye membrane as well that might be useful).

In the case of the world eaters though, its more or less directly implied that its crazy chaos voodoo, and the world eaters are completely batshit insane for doing it.

So, the Dok would strap down an Ork-host, which would be many times stronger,

I'm not commenting on the viability of chopping flood infected parts off, but I'm not so sure the Flood are going to make orks suddenly many times stronger than they already are without additional biomass.

[Covenant]

Well, about chopping parts off, isn't it only necessary to rip out the Infection form? It usually resides in the chest cavity, and it's independantly alive. Since Orkz can simply be stapled back together and function (or be mostly torn apart and welded to pieces of machinery), I don't see why it's so hard to imagine them ripping out the rather un-Orky flood body while it's squirming away.

And yeah, as I said earlier, I'm not sure the Flood bodies would be any better than Orky tissue as far as strengths go. Ork are pretty insanely strong. It's quite possible the Ork in question would suddenly become extremely good at jumping around (which would be funny to see) but I don't think they'd get all that much tougher. It's not like flood multiply strength, they merely replace old, relatively 'weaker' tissue with their new tissue.

[Peptuck]

Do you think a WH40K warship's void shields (or whatever they're called) can resist the firing of a Halo's main weapon? If yes, then there are potentially millions of sentient beings capable of surviving the sterilization procedure.

I don't think we have enough information on the workings of the Halo weapons to come to a conclusion whether or not void shields would resist the weapon. However, in Ghosts of Onyx it's implied that there are safe havens that shelter against the effect of the weapon. But it's not revealed how the installation shelters against a Halo weapon.

Actually, it does. It shunts them into Slipspace, so they're technically "there" and "not there" at the same time. Unless void shields literally cause what they're protecting to be shifted into an alternate reality, they might not defend against a Halo pulse.

Gellar Fields, however, might be a different matter altogether.....

[Covenant]

Is it possible that this 'slipspace' would actually be The Warp?

[Teleros]

Doesn't sound like it from what Peptuck said. The Warp is another dimension entirely - you're either in it or not in it.

[Covenant]

Doesn't sound like it from what Peptuck said. The Warp is another dimension entirely - you're either in it or not in it.

Well, if you're not there and there at the same time, then you're still partially there (wherever there is) so there must be somewhere. Either it's some random wierd otherspace that you dump things to their doom, or it's the Warp, which would probably do a good job of getting things killed as well. I think I'm just not understanding what the Halo weapon actually does though, so I won't worry about that point, someone else can figure out what the deal is.