Face or Head-raped?

[Darth Fanboy]

Free food and water? Free Toilet? NO RENT? Shit i'm staying in the room. Escape is too fucking expensive.

If Escape becomes my only option though, man those facehugger eggs always took forever to open. By the time I got to 50 meters the first couple of eggs would just be opening.

[PREDATOR490]

Or tossing watermelons and flaming toilet rolls at either party until you are able to escape?

Better yet, if you have eggs for facehuggers. Throw melons or flaming rolls into them. Although it depends on the layout of the room they are in.

If its just a straight corridor your going to be pretty fucked either way, face hugger eggs will prevent a straight route and if you dont have eggs your basically running headfirst at an army of things that prefer to hit you face first. Best chance would be to hurl the melon into the furthest corner away from you and the exit then bolt once the coast is as clear as it will get.

I doubt your going to live long staying in the room anyway. No bath, tv, entertainment or even basic sanitary resources. Sitting down and eatting constantly cause its the only thing to do is going to really screw you over in the long run if you ever decide to finally chance it.
You will be unfit and probably alot fatter than you were when you arrived. Aliens hunt by pheromones so if you stink like shit maybe they wont touch you

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Or tossing watermelons and flaming toilet rolls at either party until you are able to escape?

Better yet, if you have eggs for facehuggers. Throw melons or flaming rolls into them. Although it depends on the layout of the room they are in.

If its just a straight corridor your going to be pretty fucked either way, face hugger eggs will prevent a straight route and if you dont have eggs your basically running headfirst at an army of things that prefer to hit you face first. Best chance would be to hurl the melon into the furthest corner away from you and the exit then bolt once the coast is as clear as it will get.

I doubt your going to live long staying in the room anyway. No bath, tv, entertainment or even basic sanitary resources. Sitting down and eatting constantly cause its the only thing to do is going to really screw you over in the long run if you ever decide to finally chance it.
You will be unfit and probably alot fatter than you were when you arrived. Aliens hunt by pheromones so if you stink like shit maybe they wont touch you

I could've sworn in Aliens, Ripley dissected a facehugger that didn't bleed acid.

[Crazedwraith]

I could've sworn in Aliens, Ripley dissected a facehugger that didn't bleed acid.

That was Bishop. And the facehugger was long dead. Bishop also made a point on commenting that the acid blood eventually neutralises itself after the creatures die.

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Ah ok. In the Medlab before they actually go underneath the reactor right?

[Enigma]

Since the rooms with the facehuggers and headcrabs are I assume 50by 50 meters? So if each one occupied a square meter that means that each room would have 2500 of these buggers. So bashing one head crab at a time will take a looooong time to accomplish. For me I'd use the blankets as a net and throw it over some of the headcrabs and bash them with my bat. Or I'll try to find a way to set the room with the head crabs on fire and block that door with the fridge. Once the fire is out I'd leave.

[Shrykull]

Could you perhaps feed the headcrabs so that after a huge meal they'd be docile and wouldn't attack you?

[hongi]

So if each one occupied a square meter that means that each room would have 2500 of these buggers.

Wouldn't they die of asphyxiation?

I suggested this over at SB, but unscrew the plumbing and then open the Headcrab door and dive into the Fridge. Wait until the water reaches the roof, open the door (assuming it isn't one of those retarded electronic doors that malfunctions underwater, leaving you to drown) and swim. If the headcrabs aren't drowned already, they'll be slower underwater and they'll be floating, thinning out the crowd of crabs you would otherwise be fighting through.

[PREDATOR490]

Facehuggers dont breathe as far as we know and some were being kept in tubes filled with water.

This is of course assuming the plumbing spurts out enough water to flood the place and that the fridge is secure enough to prevent it flooding. Even if it does getting outs going to be rather problamatic since as soon as you open the fridge door a big wave of these things are going to be swept in as well as the water. I'd say your pretty much fucked right there and then regardless of wether they float or not. Then you have to somehow swim to the exit without going near one of them which will be harder due to reduced mobility on your part and the constant need for oxygen.

[Ryushikaze]

Facehuggers dont breathe as far as we know and some were being kept in tubes filled with water.

This is of course assuming the plumbing spurts out enough water to flood the place and that the fridge is secure enough to prevent it flooding. Even if it does getting outs going to be rather problamatic since as soon as you open the fridge door a big wave of these things are going to be swept in as well as the water. I'd say your pretty much fucked right there and then regardless of wether they float or not. Then you have to somehow swim to the exit without going near one of them which will be harder due to reduced mobility on your part and the constant need for oxygen.

Can Headcrabs hop out of water? If so, and the room was partly flooded (a few feet or so), that might render them inert for the dash to freedom.

[Ryushikaze]

Ghetto edit: Make that " If not, and the room was partly flooded..."

[Rye]

The headcrabs, hands down. Keep the door to the facehuggers shut at all costs, if you try making them fight one another, they'll probably just swarm you and one will win. While the eggs opening might give you some time, there's no telling if said eggs are placed in a way that won't force you to run a dangerous path, rather than a straightforward one.

I would attempt to make a bit of skull armour from a couple of fridge shelves. Essentially just stamping on it till it could be secured with some success with lines of fabric, for instance.

[PREDATOR490]

Flooding is such a bad idea its not even really an option.

1) There is NO real clue if it spurts enough water to even create a large puddle let alone fill two rooms of unknown size. Lets not go into the image of what happens when it starts spurting up DIRTY water with shit in it. Barring how REALLY sick that is. Your going to be waiding through it without being able to see whats underneath because its murky.

2) The fridge is ALSO of unknown composition. Its most likely a massive room-like fridge with a door. That door may or may not be enough to keep water out or even withstand the extra strain as the rooms fill up.
The same can be said for the doors seperating the critters from you. It floods up and the next thing you know the Xeno door gives which brings them into play.

3) If the fridge has a door that opens OUTWARDS into the room your REALLY fucked since the water will act like a jam so your literally stuck in the fridge forever. If it opens any other way your STILL fucked because the initial flood in will sweep criters in with you extremely quickly.

4) There is no real gurantee any of these criters will drown or otherwise be affected and in the case of the Facehugger its near certain. Xenomorphs have shown the ability to climb up surfaces akin to a spider which may or may not apply to a Facehugger. if it does then they can scuttle along the unflooded part if they choose to.
They move exceptionally quickly. Enough to go from the floor to jumping on Ripley from above in Aliens.

In the case of these crabs... I have no idea but if they float your going to have to go UNDER them all the way holding your breathe. If you even attempt to break to the surface for air your head will be literally floating on the surface next to them. In the case the rooms are half flooded your completely fubarred against these crabs when you have to wade through them. Maybe find some way to hold onto the roof but that may not be an option and these crabs can still take lunges at you with claws supposedly.


The biggest chance you would have flooding is to jack the Xeno door so that when the two rooms flood the final xeno door will give way. The water will flood into the Xeno patch taking a portion of the crabs with them. With luck they will fight or at least be crawling over each other with the water holding them there while you can try and open the fridge door to sweep more into the fridge. The water level should drop enough for you to chance swimming / running out. Use the baseball bat to whack any crabs in the way and pray for the best.

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Given the descriptions between the crabs and the Xenos I'm thinking a possibility is to chance the Xeno area and when you get slapped you get impregenated and ignored by the others. Then you can pray that you will wake up and get out with enough time to get the thing removed.


Yeah.. its a long shot but the headcrabs make you a zombie that feels the pain with no control. Better that than the 10 or so minutes you get from the alien bursting its way through your chest.

[Havok]

Well what is the shelf life of a face hugger out of it's egg? If it's not too long, less than 3-4 days, I'll try to wait it out and leisurely stroll out the door through their room face intact.
Also if they are in their eggs, I'll just haul ass through the room, since they take about 5-10 seconds to open and jump. This is assuming that I have foreknowledge of what they are and how they work.
I've never played Half Life so I know nothing about the head crabs.

[Covenant]

Tisk tisk!

Facehugger eggs seem to last nearly forever. It's possible that stasis fields help with this, but I'm not sure what the Jockey's spaceship had going on down there. Thing is though, the egg they find in Alien had been there for a fucking long time. Way longer than our hypothetical hero in this story would be able to wait.

Headcrabs can't swim. They can leap out of water though, and don't need to breathe. They comfortably lounge about in puddles of skin-meltingly toxic/radioactive sludge and will also burrow into the ground and lay dormant until someone steps nearby. They they leap up and start chewing on your head!

And they make a lovely hat. Keeps you warm in the winter.

[PREDATOR490]

Its kind of ironic really.

You have the facehuggers promising a rather quick certain death with no chance of avoiding it.

OR

You have the headcrabs promising a brutal non-death with a small chance of avoiding it.

According to whats being said about headcrabs the Xenos might actually be the best option. At least if you fail you go out quickly. I dont exactly like the idea of being force to live as a zombie who feels everything but can control nothing.

Its being said that Headcrabs evolve into stronger versions as time goes on. That makes time a rather crucial factor in making a move. Outwaiting them might actually make matters worse than help.

[hongi]

Flooding is such a bad idea its not even really an option.

1) There is NO real clue if it spurts enough water to even create a large puddle let alone fill two rooms of unknown size. Lets not go into the image of what happens when it starts spurting up DIRTY water with shit in it. Barring how REALLY sick that is. Your going to be waiding through it without being able to see whats underneath because its murky.

I didn't mean the toilet plumbing, I mean the taps. Considering how long you could stay there (decades), I'm assuming that there is a constant feed of water.

2) The fridge is ALSO of unknown composition. Its most likely a massive room-like fridge with a door. That door may or may not be enough to keep water out or even withstand the extra strain as the rooms fill up.

No, I actually want the fridge to let in water. My previous post: Wait until the water reaches the roof

And by roof I meant the roof of the fridge. So it's actually three rooms that the water has to fill.

The same can be said for the doors seperating the critters from you. It floods up and the next thing you know the Xeno door gives which brings them into play.

I've assumed they're magical doors, not wooden or even metal. The facehuggers would burn through the metal, the headcrabs would have broken through the wood.

3) If the fridge has a door that opens OUTWARDS into the room your REALLY fucked since the water will act like a jam so your literally stuck in the fridge forever. If it opens any other way your STILL fucked because the initial flood in will sweep criters in with you extremely quickly.

Yes, the outwards thing is a problem. The initial flood won't be much of a problem because the water level in all three rooms will be around the same.

4) There is no real gurantee any of these criters will drown or otherwise be affected and in the case of the Facehugger its near certain. Xenomorphs have shown the ability to climb up surfaces akin to a spider which may or may not apply to a Facehugger. if it does then they can scuttle along the unflooded part if they choose to.
They move exceptionally quickly. Enough to go from the floor to jumping on Ripley from above in Aliens.

Not a problem if the facehugger door holds. I only have to deal with the facecrabs.

In the case of these crabs... I have no idea but if they float your going to have to go UNDER them all the way holding your breathe. If you even attempt to break to the surface for air your head will be literally floating on the surface next to them. In the case the rooms are half flooded your completely fubarred against these crabs when you have to wade through them. Maybe find some way to hold onto the roof but that may not be an option and these crabs can still take lunges at you with claws supposedly.

Personally, I would rather have the facecrabs above me even if I have to hold my breath for all the way. Besides, from underneath the water (and assuming there are electrical lights on the roof), it'll be fairly easy for me to pick out a gap in the floating facecrabs, if indeed there is one.

But what makes you think that the facecrabs will float? They look pretty heavy to me.

The biggest chance you would have flooding is to jack the Xeno door so that when the two rooms flood the final xeno door will give way. The water will flood into the Xeno patch taking a portion of the crabs with them. With luck they will fight or at least be crawling over each other with the water holding them there while you can try and open the fridge door to sweep more into the fridge. The water level should drop enough for you to chance swimming / running out. Use the baseball bat to whack any crabs in the way and pray for the best.

Well...uh, that too.

[Junghalli]

You can't ferment something to a high enough alcohol concentration that it can be burned, as the fermentation process will stop itself at an alcohol content not much higher than beer or wine. Unless he has a plan for constructing a distillery apparatus, he's not getting any fire out of that plan.

Well, it might still come in handy if he decided to go with the suicide option. Being able to drink yourself into a stupor before the chestbuster emerges would make suicide by facehugger a good deal less scary.

[Cykeisme]

What would happen if a face hugger impregnated a head crab?

I could just keep tossing head craps to the face huggers then run like hell once there all face hugged

You'd probably get a Xenomorph form around the size and shape of a chicken pot pie with a delicious filling of hate and acid.

It'd be hilarious, but pretty worthless. It'd probably just kill both of them--the hugger would hug the humper's mouth, and the humper would bite with it's beak, killing the hugger as the humper dies of acid. Like some horrible sex-act gone terribly, terribly wrong.

Wow, and whoever said the room had no entertainment? Option 3 is becoming a lot more attractive now!

[Oni Koneko Damien]

The problem is they both will likely ignore each other. In the original HL, headcrabs ignored everything but humans. Even bullsquids, who seem to have a murderous hatred for headcrabs, would hunt down groups of them, and the headcrabs wouldn't do a thing as they are squished, one by one. As far as facehuggers go, they seem to react to body or pheremones produced by mammals, and we have no idea if headcrabs produce these.

As far as quickness of death...in the original HL, you get to see a scientist in the process of getting 'crabbed'. It seems to latch onto his head, the extra weight tipping him over, and he stops moving immediately after falling over. Which means either:

1) The blunt trauma of the crab striking the skull knocks the victim unconscious, which ensures a painless death.

2) The crab bites through enough of the brain in the first blow that all motor function in the body ceases, which again means death is likely quick and relatively painless.

3) The crab injects some sort of toxin that paralyzes the body within a second or so. If paralysis is *all* it does, then things could be rather painful. On the other hand, if it's just a general sedative, perhaps the pain is numbed too, or full unconsciousness is caused.

4) Some combination of the above: Shock and trauma stop the victim from moving for a few seconds, which gives the crab enough time to either inject the toxin or eat through enough of the brain. Either ungodly painful, or relatively painless, depending on unknowns.

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Anyways, I'd take the slow-and-steady route with the headcrab room. In HL, they first rotate to face you, then leap at you, unless you're out of range, in which case, they waddle rather slowly towards you. Simply crack the door open, stick an arm through, then leave it open just enough for a single headcrab to get through (they'll go single file since they never leap unless it's to attack), and bash it to death. Repeat ad-infinitum.

You have enough food to last for decades, and headcrab-bashing is a decent exercise. Unless they're being replenished indefinitely in some fashion that the OP didn't specify, you *will* eventually get them all, and probably be a bit more fit when you stride out of there.

[Molyneux]

My first thought was to make like Solid Snake - take everything out of the refrigerator, take off the door, and use it as mobile armor. Go through the headcrab room - if headcrabs only attack by jumping at someone's head, I'm home free until I get to the exit door, and then I'll only be in danger for as long as it takes to get out from under the fridge, yank the door open, and escape.

If the exit door to the headcrab room opens outward, then I'm in even better luck, especially if the fridge has some kind of moldings on the inside that let me grip it. Pull it over on top of me once I've removed the door, push it to the door of the headcrab room, then tilt it back and pull it forward so it's flush with the door - still risky until I've got the fridge upright - then just open the door and close it behind me. Now the headcrabs have got to get through the fridge and the door to get at me.