Most ridiculous character shield

DeadM · Post by **DeadM** » 2003-01-25 06:57am

I'd say Apophis from SG1, hes died a few times.
And Ensign Harry Kim, he too had his fair time of dieing

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-01-25 06:58am

Chow Yun-Fat

for Always Dieing, but always in such a bad ass way....

Ten Million folks shooting at him, and he's going to have a jacket riddled with bullet holes, but only one or two are actually going to hit him, and usually in a place that is very painful but not immediatly fatal.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-01-25 07:02am

Alex Krychek from X-Files, doesn't matter what you do to him, Seal him up alive in an abondoned ICBM silo, give him to some aliens, let him drown in a sea of rats, cut off his arm, shove him on death row, or leave him in a turkish prison....

Rat boy ALWAYS comes back, hell if there was a season 8 to the X-Files he would still find a way to survive getting shot by Skinner.

unigolyn · Post by **unigolyn** » 2003-01-25 07:07am

The Yosemite Bear wrote:Rat boy ALWAYS comes back, hell if there was a season 8 to the X-Files he would still find a way to survive getting shot by Skinner.

Err, there IS a season 8. There's also a season 9...

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-01-25 07:33am

I thought it ended at seven (I lost count, it went bad after the movie, and when Mulder dissappeared)

And Krychek though does manage to last from the Second Season till the last episode though....

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2003-01-25 10:25am

The X-Files was just REALLY AWFUL Physics, the man who's shadow turned people into heaps of ash but did nothing to stray piece of paper or box that he sat on.

Skelron · Post by **Skelron** » 2003-01-25 11:22am

Tsyroc wrote:Wolveringe from the X-Men comics.

His healing factor always seems to be just enough or increase in strength whenever he absolutely needs it to survive.

Throat ripped out, no problem. Most of his boddy mass incinerated no problem. He always talks shit about being the best there is but usually all he does it take a crap load of damage and end up winning. So much for actual skill.

hardly, he has shown skill on numerous occasions.
1.) During the Mutants no more plotline, his healing factor has been neutralised, and he is in the advanced stages of admentium Poisening. Yet he still manages to survive numerous fights, (we see a much beaten up Wolvie, weakened from the lack of a counter to the poisen flooding his system) he then takes out in a H2Hand fight Sinster's take on the High Evolutionary's New-Men, before leaping onto sinsiter himself. Sinister was Scared at that point, nothing he could throw at Wolvie was keeping him down, literally nothing, and he had no Healing factor at this time, just raw aggresion, and the knowledge that if he was going down he was going to save the world one last time. (His healing factor actually to be honest had started to kick back in, but judging by the strength that Storm had avaible to her, at the same point not by much, (She could handle a crackle of lightning instead of a bolt.)
2.) His fight with Saber Tooth to become Death for Apolcalpyse, he beat Saber Tooth by knowing where to hit him to avoid the Admentium bone sytructure, which at this point Wolvie did not have.
3.) His first appearance, diverting a fight between both the Incrediable Hulk and the wendigo, this was before he had Charcter Shields.
4.) The one I just Bought today, he takes out an entire Hit squad, that he notes as having better than military training, then three of the best assains in the world, all one after the other. Havn't reached the end yet to tell you what happens next.
5.) While death for Apocalpyse he very Nearly kills the Hulk, only the reemergance temporary of Wolverine prevents it. Note the only differance between death's Skills and Wlovies skills is how far they are willing to go.
6.) while Death he is shown to quite handily defeat the X-men, knowing as he does their weaknesses.
7.) The skill level of Shadowcat, as her teacher it can be assumed that Wolvie is a better fighter than his pupil that he can still defeat in combat, and Hadow cat has been shown to be quite deadly with her fists and with her sword... actually in many of the martial art styles.
8.) oh I could go on, but in hand to hand Combat Wolvie has shown that he has earned the title of the best there is at what he does. if his style seems to allow the enemy to land more blows that is simply because he can take those blows, not due to a lack of skill.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-01-25 11:32am

Yeah but at the same time...aside from his own books it's similar to Batman.

He's able to take beings who have shown godlike relisance(Hulk) and city wide destroying power with a flick of their wrist.

Pretty much the problem I have is how is he actually doing any real damage...it's one thing to have something being able to pierce it, it's another to have the strength to pull it off.

I mean we see both do pretty much the same thing...and yes some writers understand and use Wolvie correctly...other times no...given Hulk level of strength...one punch to his skull will kill Wolvie given that unless Wolvies skull asorbs all KE, his brain is putty.

Skelron · Post by **Skelron** » 2003-01-25 11:52am

Ghost Rider wrote:Yeah but at the same time...aside from his own books it's similar to Batman.

He's able to take beings who have shown godlike relisance(Hulk) and city wide destroying power with a flick of their wrist.

Pretty much the problem I have is how is he actually doing any real damage...it's one thing to have something being able to pierce it, it's another to have the strength to pull it off.

I mean we see both do pretty much the same thing...and yes some writers understand and use Wolvie correctly...other times no...given Hulk level of strength...one punch to his skull will kill Wolvie given that unless Wolvies skull asorbs all KE, his brain is putty.

Oh yeah definatly but the whole variable abilty rating is a comic stable, you can't have every Threat being a world ending one, the world can only be so unlucky.

and for wolvie almost killing Hulk what I liked about that as it really showed wolvie's skill, because he knew he personally didn't have the strength to pierce the Hulks skin deep enough to do serious damage, but he let the hulk do it to himself. he turned the Hulk's strength against him.

As for a punch to the skull from the hulk, yep if wolvie stood there and just took it then, Thats bad writing by the writer, not an example of Wolvie Character Shields. Or at the very least a time for a no Prize attempt. (A UK Marvel Comics thing in the Collector's eddition basically you get a no-Prize for explaining away writers mistakes.) in this case it would be something along the lines of, either Admentium is strong because it spreads the Kinetic energy across the entire structure. Or if thats unscientific, he was rolling with the blow, not enough to avoid being thrown across the country side, but enough to avoid the whole mushed brain thingy.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-01-25 12:24pm

Yeah we have no-prizes, here to...got a couple of those in the past, explaining Iron Man...I just chalk it up to the same thing that makes Iron Man survive...the writer wants him to.

Seriously they literally have Wolvie/Iron/Cap/Bats/Robin/etc get hit with blows that are made to punch through steel as if it were tissue paper...and hero doesn't die. I accept it, heck I still the stuff...but a small part of me go "que?"