What would happen if you used warp in B5 hyperspace?

Solid Snake · Post by **Solid Snake** » 2003-01-26 03:51am

Intergalactic travel faster then you can shit yourself? Or would this just be a wanker thought?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-01-26 03:55am

What makes you think there's an answer?

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-01-26 04:03am

Mixing series' technobabble generally results in even worse technobabble and explosions.

Now what happens if a ship uses a Star Wars hyperdrive while at warp inside of a Borg transwarp corridor built inside of B5 hyperspace?

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-01-26 04:18am

SolidSnake wrote:Intergalactic travel faster then you can shit yourself? Or would this just be a wanker thought?

Do warp field and b5 hyperspace environment mix?

In other words: unknown.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2003-01-26 04:25am

Hey what happens if you stuff an armed hand grenade into a mortar?

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-01-26 04:48am

Cpt_Frank wrote:Hey what happens if you stuff an armed hand grenade into a mortar?

Depends on the mortar and grenade type. Some mortars where actually designed to fire hand grenades. The grenades had provisions for screwing on a propellant charge to be used with the mortar. Without it they could be used and thrown normally. The Japanese Type 89 50mm was an example of such a mortar. Though it also had dedicated rounds designed and issued.

Probably not the answer you expected.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2003-01-26 04:57am

Sea Skimmer wrote:
Cpt_Frank wrote:Hey what happens if you stuff an armed hand grenade into a mortar?
Depends on the mortar and grenade type. Some mortars where actually designed to fire hand grenades. The grenades had provisions for screwing on a propellant charge to be used with the mortar. Without it they could be used and thrown normally. The Japanese Type 89 50mm was an example of such a mortar. Though it also had dedicated rounds designed and issued.

Probably not the answer you expected.

I was thinking of a normal fragmentation grenade like the M-67 used with a normal mortar like the 60mm M2.

All this crazy special stuff you come up with....

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2003-01-26 09:59am

SolidSnake wrote:Intergalactic travel faster then you can shit yourself? Or would this just be a wanker thought?

if the two types of FTL are compatable (if you could sustain a warp field in hyperspace) then probably it they aren't expect to see a very large very pretty explosion

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-01-26 10:07am

SolidSnake wrote:Intergalactic travel faster then you can shit yourself? Or would this just be a wanker thought?

Probably the same as openig a jump point while exiting trough a jumpgate.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-01-26 12:08pm

SolidSnake wrote:Intergalactic travel faster then you can shit yourself? Or would this just be a wanker thought?

Given the massive gravitational eddies and such the ship would very likely be destroyed. Warp drive isn't the safest to use in the presence of a gravity well and hyperspace is rotten with them.

namdoolb · Post by **namdoolb** » 2003-01-26 12:58pm

It's probably far more likely (although much less entertaining) that the warp engines wouldn't do a thing.

Kinda like trying to fly a prop driven plane in deep space.

The warp engines could be running as fast as you like, but whatever they're designed to push against probably ain't there.

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2003-01-26 01:53pm

Technically all of these hyperspaces, SW, ST, B5, can be explained as transitory d-planes used to traverse greater distances. Hyperspace in B5 and SW, and subspace in ST. Technically it's never been known as hSpace in SW but one might as well call it that from the effects seen in ep 4.
It's impossible to go to hyperspace when in hyperspace so this probably wouldn't work in the firstplace.

Isil`Zha · Post by **Isil`Zha** » 2003-01-26 02:51pm

I doubt subspace exists in hyperspace, rendering warpdrive impossible... it also means if a Federation vessal wandered in there it would have no shields, or phasers, and very limited power...

Shadow WarChief · Post by **Shadow WarChief** » 2003-01-26 04:19pm

Well hypothetically speaking, assuming that warp drive worked in hyperspace, the ship using the warp drive would be able to achieve speeds that would probably make SW hyperspace look like a rusty volkswagon.

Of course, the down side to this is that once they go to warp, because of their insane speeds, they'll most likely run off the beacon system and get lost in hyperpace for all eternity.

Arrow · Post by **Arrow** » 2003-01-26 05:31pm

SyntaxVorlon wrote:Technically all of these hyperspaces, SW, ST, B5, can be explained as transitory d-planes used to traverse greater distances. Hyperspace in B5 and SW, and subspace in ST. Technically it's never been known as hSpace in SW but one might as well call it that from the effects seen in ep 4.
It's impossible to go to hyperspace when in hyperspace so this probably wouldn't work in the firstplace.

What is a transitory d-plane?

Solid Snake · Post by **Solid Snake** » 2003-01-26 05:42pm

Ack, just a dumb question. It would be cool though

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-01-26 08:47pm

storm, warp isnt safe to use PERIOD let alone in a gravity field

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-01-26 09:09pm

kojikun wrote:storm, warp isnt safe to use PERIOD let alone in a gravity field

Actually, the old time warp drives seemed to be damn stable and safe. The news are ticking time bombs of ultimate doom! That said they're even worse in gravity wells.

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2003-01-26 09:30pm

Arrow Mk84 wrote:
SyntaxVorlon wrote:Technically all of these hyperspaces, SW, ST, B5, can be explained as transitory d-planes used to traverse greater distances. Hyperspace in B5 and SW, and subspace in ST. Technically it's never been known as hSpace in SW but one might as well call it that from the effects seen in ep 4.
It's impossible to go to hyperspace when in hyperspace so this probably wouldn't work in the firstplace.
What is a transitory d-plane?

I believe I covered what a d-plane was in another thread, to one of your questions. But a transitory d-plane would be another universe "beneath" or "above" our own. It would be much smaller by several orders of magnitude such that traveling in it would be the equivalent of traveling millions of times faster in our own universe. Wormholes could be used to connect our universe with this one, temporary or permanent, and make intersellar travel worthwhile.
Culture novels explain this to an extent as does B5. ST does nothing to explain things but come up with worthless babble, iso this and iso that.
It probably has no foundation in reality but it is one way to explain things for most scifi series, not novels as most novelists like to explain things.

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2003-01-26 09:55pm

To answer the original question...

Probably not a damn thing. As likely as not, a ST ship in B5 hyperspace will be so isolate from "subspace" that it can't form warp field or use any of its nifty subspace doodads. My personal opinion is that a ST ship in hyperspace would be virtually helpless, with no ability to navigate.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-01-26 10:38pm

Actually, the old time warp drives seemed to be damn stable and safe. The news are ticking time bombs of ultimate doom! That said they're even worse in gravity wells.

Yeah. The old ones could get you to 1986 just by flying around the sun. And that wasnt dangerous except for the extreme accelerative stresses put on the ship.

Crossover_Maniac · Post by **Crossover_Maniac** » 2003-01-26 11:58pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:Mixing series' technobabble generally results in even worse technobabble and explosions.

Now what happens if a ship uses a Star Wars hyperdrive while at warp inside of a Borg transwarp corridor built inside of B5 hyperspace?

Big ass explosion?

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