The portrayal of UN featured in many Animes, or a UN Spacy??

Hawkwings · Post by **Hawkwings** » 2008-08-04 11:45pm

if it's french, it's pronounced es-pah-tee-ay

Nyrath · Post by **Nyrath** » 2008-08-05 12:27pm

[quote="Ohma"]One would assume that it's pronounced rather like spacer./quote]
Hurhn. Good point. I had not thought of that.

Drooling Iguana · Post by **Drooling Iguana** » 2008-08-05 03:17pm

Destructionator XIII wrote:
Nyrath wrote:Tyge Sjostrand suggest the term Espatiers for space marines
How is that pronounced?

In English, probably "espateer." Like "musketeer" but in space.

Ford Prefect · Post by **Ford Prefect** » 2008-08-05 05:58pm

Nyrath wrote:My favorite coined SF term is from Tyge Sjostrand

Tyge Sjostrand suggest the term Espatiers for space marines, since after all the term "marine" implies the ocean (French marine, from Latin marinus, derived from mare "sea"). Rick Robinson really likes Mr. Sjostrand suggestion: "Espatier" is a twofer. Its formation exactly parallels "Marine" (also French-derived, as are nearly all basic military terms), and it also parallels the English word "spacer," but with a nice shade of meaning - a spacer is anyone who lives/works in space; an espatier is a space soldier. "

I like that one t0o - I was very much over 'marine' referring to soldiers attacking planets from the cold hard vacuum of space. I was never sure of how to pronounce it, though.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2008-08-05 06:41pm

Ohma wrote:Somewhat more on topic. In the comic and cartoon Planetes, there is a UN government-ish sort of thing (I don't have the comics or what I have of the cartoon handy at the moment so I may be slightly off about all this). In the comic this is mostly seen through the EDC which seems to be composed of representatives from the countries and (major) companies who have a vested interest in space development. In the cartoon there's also INTO which is like a sort of UN world police sort of organization. Unfortunately the comic's geopolitical stuff explodes when the US (whose main representative in the comic is in fact Colonel Sanders) goes to war with a country...or alliance of countries...with a really funky name for no adequately explained reason. I haven't watched the rest of the cartoon but I've been told to political stuff works much better...unfortunately the characters lack the subtlety they have in the comic so...

I think it was only a world governmentish thing in the cartoon. The Earth Development Community was an international space organization where very member nations joined into, but wasn't a government. More of an international NASA.

Saxtonite · Post by **Saxtonite** » 2008-08-07 02:17am

Vendetta wrote:. , the change from union of nations to world government caused a third world war, which the UN Government won, but which mostly fell off the rails with the crash of ASS-1)

ASS-1? The SDF? Also, IIRC didn't most or all the nations sign the new treaty but there were rebelling parts? And the crash of the SDF prevented the third world war from happening?

Ford Prefect · Post by **Ford Prefect** » 2008-08-07 02:27am

Saxtonite wrote: ASS-1? The SDF? Also, IIRC didn't most or all the nations sign the new treaty but there were rebelling parts? And the crash of the SDF prevented the third world war from happening?

As I recall, the Macross crashlanded, alerting the world to the existence of aliens. This triggered a drive for world unification, which was not well-received by everyone on earth, and a war started between the UN and the Anti-UN.

Cue bird fish logs.

Saxtonite · Post by **Saxtonite** » 2008-08-07 02:29am

Ford Prefect wrote: As I recall, the Macross crashlanded, alerting the world to the existence of aliens. This triggered a drive for world unification, which was not well-received by everyone on earth, and a war started between the UN and the Anti-UN.

Cue bird fish logs.

thank you. but the *que bird fish logs*? that's the beginning of the series, the island right? or can you post a youtube link for me to be sure? sry