Vin Diesel: "2 more Riddick sequels"

Themightytom · Post by **Themightytom** » 2008-08-28 04:57pm

I'm really sick of Vin Diesel. More Specifically, His Raspy Voice. Just clear your frigging throat!

What the F is with the Furians? Their superpower is their stubborn? Who gives a shit. Vin Diesel just wants another monument to his badassery. We already know he gets laid so I don't know what he's trying to prove anymore.

Pitch Black was pretty good as a cult favorite that no one knew about, Chronicles of Riddick is on too large a scale to be plausible. The invasion force was rediculous, this "underverse" crap is pseudo science fantasy and what the hell is the deal with their FTL? in pitch black it was sort of an Aliens rip off, in taht they have to be in cryo to survive the long voyage, in Chronicles of Riddick, they STILL went into cryo but it was just "Eh we're there".

Unless they flipped the theory of relativity around so taht time passes faster when you move at the speed off light, i don't understand what purpose it serves other than to give Smokey McChimneyvoice another chance to blab on about how jaded he is.

ExarKun · Post by **ExarKun** » 2008-08-30 09:24am

Themightytom wrote:I'm really sick of Vin Diesel. More Specifically, His Raspy Voice. Just clear your frigging throat!

What the F is with the Furians? Their superpower is their stubborn? Who gives a shit. Vin Diesel just wants another monument to his badassery. We already know he gets laid so I don't know what he's trying to prove anymore.

Pitch Black was pretty good as a cult favorite that no one knew about, Chronicles of Riddick is on too large a scale to be plausible. The invasion force was rediculous, this "underverse" crap is pseudo science fantasy and what the hell is the deal with their FTL? in pitch black it was sort of an Aliens rip off, in taht they have to be in cryo to survive the long voyage, in Chronicles of Riddick, they STILL went into cryo but it was just "Eh we're there".

Unless they flipped the theory of relativity around so taht time passes faster when you move at the speed off light, i don't understand what purpose it serves other than to give Smokey McChimneyvoice another chance to blab on about how jaded he is.

Dude, it's a story. It doesn't all have to be explained. Enjoy it for what it is, or read a physics book if you're into clear-cut truth.

Lord_Xerxes · Post by **Lord_Xerxes** » 2008-08-30 11:02am

Themightytom wrote:this "underverse" crap is pseudo science fantasy.

Uh...it's a Sci-fi/fantasy movie? I'm pretty sure the vast majority of those have that sort of thing in them.

Christ, I think nearly all the sci-fi/fantasy shows have had some sort of underrealm/second plane of existance/alternate dimmension of some sort that leads to various nonsensical stuff. It's part of the genre. Take for example Stargate which has all the shit about Daniel ascending (several times if I recall, though granted I didn't follow the show very closely) or whatever he hell it was.

Darth Raptor · Post by **Darth Raptor** » 2008-08-30 11:55am

"The Underverse isn't real!" No shit, are you serious? Fucking LOL. Of course the Underverse isn't real! Neither is fold-space, hyperspace, subscpace, the Warp, the Force, anti-grav or FTL. Seriously, WHUT? Real world physics are not the metric of realism in sci-fi, Tom. Internal consistency is.

Peptuck · Post by **Peptuck** » 2008-08-30 01:45pm

Themightytom wrote:Vin Diesel just wants another monument to his badassery. We already know he gets laid so I don't know what he's trying to prove anymore.

Yes, because as we all know, actors should stop making movies where they play badass motherfuckers the moment their shit-kicking prowess has been established. That's why Samuel L. Jackson stopped starring in any movies after Pulp Fiction.

Oh, wait.

Pitch Black was pretty good as a cult favorite that no one knew about, Chronicles of Riddick is on too large a scale to be plausible.

That doesn't even make sense. "Too large a scale to be plausible"? Huh?

The invasion force was rediculous, this "underverse" crap is pseudo science fantasy

lol wut

The Jedi are ridiculous, and this "Force" crap is pseudo science fantasy too.

CaptHawkeye · Post by **CaptHawkeye** » 2008-08-30 05:36pm

CoR is admittedly a guilty pleasure of mine. I just get a kick out of Riddick and all of his absurd one liners. I'll look forward to the sequels, as long as they don't try to do shit like force a pretentious plot and give Riddick more 2 dimensional red shirt characters to associate with.

phred · Post by **phred** » 2008-08-30 06:18pm

Eh I'll give them a shot. Pitch Black and Chronicles were both decent popcorn flicks that happened to have a couple of similar characters. I would enjoy seeing that universe explored a little more. Plus Chronicles had Judi Dench in it

Themightytom · Post by **Themightytom** » 2008-08-30 06:44pm

Peptuck wrote: Yes, because as we all know, actors should stop making movies where they play badass motherfuckers the moment their shit-kicking prowess has been established. That's why Samuel L. Jackson stopped starring in any movies after Pulp Fiction
Oh, wait.

yeah except no one in Chronicles of Riddick go to do anything good except for Riddick, the sun rose and set with him, it was rediculously over the top how Awesome he was. I'm as much a fan of the badass character as the rest but it gets old after hours o following this guy around watching his Awesomeness.

Pitch Black was pretty good as a cult favorite that no one knew about, Chronicles of Riddick is on too large a scale to be plausible.

That doesn't even make sense. "Too large a scale to be plausible"? Huh?

Meaning things that could be overlooked for a small story that affects a group of survivor of a crash are more difficult to overlook on a larger scale.

The Jedi are ridiculous, and this "Force" crap is pseudo science fantasy too.

Star wars was a much more developed universe, even in just "A New hope" than Chronicles of Riddick. We went to a pretty solid straightforward sci fi show to superpowers and magic and it was a shaky transition.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2008-08-30 07:08pm

ExarKun wrote:Dude, it's a story. It doesn't all have to be explained. Enjoy it for what it is, or read a physics book if you're into clear-cut truth.

Your black-white fallacy disgusts me.

Themightytom · Post by **Themightytom** » 2008-08-31 12:03am

Stark wrote:
ExarKun wrote:Dude, it's a story. It doesn't all have to be explained. Enjoy it for what it is, or read a physics book if you're into clear-cut truth.
Your black-white fallacy disgusts me.

wow the avatar really gives a sense of that disgust :-/

speaker-to-trolls · Post by **speaker-to-trolls** » 2008-08-31 07:35am

Maybe Chronicles of Riddick would work as a weird space fantasy thing on its own, but to my eyes the shift between it and Pitch Black is too much. In Pitch Black you had some fairly ordinary people (in fact they sometimes seemed basically modern except for the fact they had a spaceship) stuck in a bad situation on an alien planet, with their only real hope of survival being a sociopathic killer with weird eyes. I don't make it sound like much but I loved Pitch Black (best lines="we take it as a sign from Allah, blue sun, blue water" "ever wonder why I'm an atheist?")
Then Pitch Black has all this Warhammer nonsense with undead wizards and prophecies and witches and Riddick is now not just a sociopath who could save your life, he's the honest-to-Horus messiah! He can kill five men with a teacup! He can tame wild alien beasts! He can best the most fearsome warrior in the universe in single combat! Pretty good going for someone who started off being able to see in the dark and dislocate his own shoulders.
Too much, and as someone has already said, the whole film did seem to contain a lot of Vin Diesil making himself look more badass.

Also, I know I shouldn't complain about this, but I was really annoyed by the girl who was a bald tomboy in Pitch Black turning up as a beautiful bottle of violence in Chronicles of Riddick. She's been in the worst prison in the universe for five years and she ends up looking like that? Whatever you say.

Feil · Post by **Feil** » 2008-08-31 11:57am

I have to throw in with the people saying "Pitch Black good; Chronicles not good." We all know that a Vin Diesel movie is about Vin Diesel killing stuff before or after delivering one-liners, but that alone can't carry a movie. Pitch Black would have been a good movie with a random no-name actor and no one-liners to speak of. Chronicles was boring, overwrought, and way too full of itself, punctuated with some bright moments of Vin Diesel killing stuff before or after delivering one liners.

Themightytom · Post by **Themightytom** » 2008-08-31 02:04pm

Feil wrote:I have to throw in with the people saying "Pitch Black good; Chronicles not good." We all know that a Vin Diesel movie is about Vin Diesel killing stuff before or after delivering one-liners, but that alone can't carry a movie. Pitch Black would have been a good movie with a random no-name actor and no one-liners to speak of. Chronicles was boring, overwrought, and way too full of itself, punctuated with some bright moments of Vin Diesel killing stuff before or after delivering one liners.

I personally enjoyed his performance in The Iron Giant.

Slacker · Post by **Slacker** » 2008-09-02 10:54am

I think the transition between PB and Chronicles was a bit too jarring. That said, I enjoyed Chronicles as a popcorn action flick with spaceships. *shrugs*

I'll watch the sequels.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2008-09-02 11:52am

Slacker wrote:I think the transition between PB and Chronicles was a bit too jarring. That said, I enjoyed Chronicles as a popcorn action flick with spaceships. *shrugs*

I'll watch the sequels.

I'm in the same boat.

PB seemed like it was trying for science fiction and Chronicles added a heavy dash of fantasy/space opera to the mix. It bothered me quite a bit on the first viewing. Watching it later it grew on me and I enjoy it more now. Presumably the sequels would continue in the vein of Chronicles so there shouldn't be that jarring switch like there was from PB to Chronicles.

I found the wanked out space Conan version of Riddick entertaining enough to give a sequel to Chronicles a chance.

Slacker · Post by **Slacker** » 2008-09-02 04:08pm

It's not that I had a problem with the Space Opera, and as a Space Opera, I enjoyed it...it just was very different from a fairly hard-science Pitch Black.

Meh, I guess we'll see.